The BS Pipeline

[detbuch]

Told ya, Scott . . . they got no clue what was really in the video (or, if they watched it, would rather not discuss it). wdmso with his usual "needle in a hastack" nonsense and Spence with his slicker put down--amazing how the "queen of context," as JohnR once characterized him, pulls a tiny portion out of its meaningful context, totally gutting Tatum's point. But that's how the left operates--marginalize, ridicule, slant and lie.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Told ya, Scott . . . they got no clue what was really in the video (or, if they watched it, would rather not discuss it). wdmso with his usual "needle in a hastack" nonsense and Spence with his slicker put down--amazing how the "queen of context," as JohnR once characterized him, pulls a tiny portion out of its meaningful context, totally gutting Tatum's point. But that's how the left operates--marginalize, ridicule, slant and lie.

No, just wanted to irritate.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Told ya, Scott . . . they got no clue what was really in the video (or, if they watched it, would rather not discuss it). wdmso with his usual "needle in a hastack" nonsense and Spence with his slicker put down--amazing how the "queen of context," as JohnR once characterized him, pulls a tiny portion out of its meaningful context, totally gutting Tatum's point. But that's how the left operates--marginalize, ridicule, slant and lie.

Watched the whole thing as for nonsense thats all coming from you .. whats there to discuss? You posted that to renforce your narrative of see heres a responsible black person . End of topic seen the same tactics all over facebook to include his past crimes used to minimize his killing or whats 1 less thug off the street


I read this some place

If the aftermath of floyds death upsets you more than his death and how he died. thats the bigger problem
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Watched the whole thing as for nonsense thats all coming from you .. whats there to discuss? You posted that to renforce your narrative of see heres a responsible black person . End of topic seen the same tactics all over facebook to include his past crimes used to minimize his killing or whats 1 less thug off the street

You missed Tatum's point. And it's not about a black person saying it, though that does take away the notion that it's a racist white person's point.

And if having a "needle in a haystack" black person saying it makes it somehow commonplace and not worth considering because it is one black person, then why is it so important to get all bent when one black person gets killed by a cop. It's not like cops are unjustly killing scads of black men. That's actually relatively rare. But cities must burn because of it. But if a "needle in a haystack" comments on it, it ain't about nothin'

I read this some place

If the aftermath of floyds death upsets you more than his death and how he died. thats the bigger problem

I don't know why I have to be upset more by one over the other, but in terms of actual damage and loss of life, the aftermath is larger--don't know if it's bigger.

[scottw]

I hope these big cities defund or disband their police departments as they are threatening to...that should be fun...I bet their tax base sticks around to find out what happens next


92 shot, 27 fatally, in Chicago's most violent weekend of 2020
Sun-Times Media Wire
Monday, June 1, 2020 10:31AM

CHICAGO -- 27 people were killed and at least 65 others were wounded by gun violence in Chicago's most violent weekend of the year so far
The latest fatal shooting happened Sunday night in West Garfield Park on the West Side.

Officers responding to a ShotSpotter alert for gunfire found the 18-year-old shot in the right side of her head at 10:51 p.m. in the 4200 block of West Van Buren Street, according to Chicago police. She was pronounced dead at the scene.

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

I hope these big cities defund or disband their police departments as they are threatening to...that should be fun...I bet their tax base sticks around to find out what happens next.

Nobody is suggesting the police should be disbanded.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Nobody is suggesting the police should be disbanded.
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ACLU of Minnesota
@ACLUMN
BREAKING: Minneapolis City Council members have announced their intent to disband the Minneapolis Police Department and invest in community-led public safety.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Nobody is suggesting the police should be disbanded.
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CNBC
KEY POINTS

A majority of the members of the Minneapolis City Council said Sunday they support disbanding the city's police department.
That aggressive stance that comes just as the state has launched a civil rights investigation after George Floyd's death.

A majority of the members of the Minneapolis City Council said Sunday they support disbanding the city's police department.

Nine of the council's 12 members appeared with activists at a rally in a city park Sunday afternoon and vowed to end policing as the city currently knows it. Council member Jeremiah Ellison promised that the council would "dismantle" the department.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Nobody is suggesting the police should be disbanded.
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this is from the Allie's Doughnuts thread....which has been interesting to watch

Cleo Yeets- I support change, such as defunding and abolishing the police they're useless murderers that hide behind a badge, it is the epitome of cowardice

James Chofay- and who will stop crime?

Cleo Yeets- volunteer community defense
Cops uphold an institution, they work for the upper class, not the people

James Chofay- so what about military? Abolish them too?

Cleo Yeets- absolutely, they're an overglorified oil company that gets paid to kill brown kids


so apparently the "woke" plan is to eliminate the police and military and replace them with a "volunteer military defense"....or "militia" I suppose....

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

this is from the Allie's Doughnuts thread....which has been interesting to watch

Pretty strong argument when you're key exhibit is some is a random person at a donut shop.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Nobody is suggesting the police should be disbanded.
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pretty cool "restructure"

published 8 hours ago
Seattle protesters declare 'cop free zone' after police leave precinct

Seattle has been making big news in the last couple of days. The first major story emerged Tuesday when police ceded an entire neighborhood to Antifa and Black Lives Matter, representatives of which barricaded a large segment of the Capitol Hill neighborhood and declared the area an “autonomous” community, separate from Seattle itself. The second newsworthy story occurred when thousands of leftist protesters led by Black Lives Matter and Antifa entered City Hall shortly after midnight on Wednesday, demanding that Mayor Jenny Durkan (a Democrat) resign.

On Tuesday, the police in Seattle’s Eastern District had initially battled with the rioters, using tear gas and flashbangs. Eventually, recognizing that anything short of a military-style defense was a waste of police time and put police lives at risk, the police abandoned the Eastern Precinct. They shredded important and confidential documents, boarded up the windows, and walked away, leaving the people whom they serve to the mob’s mercy.

The mob set up barricades around the streets and announced a new independent community called the “Capitol Hill autonomous zone” or “Free Capitol Hill.” Because this is Seattle, residents of the city, rather than looking at the probably and imminent end of a comfortable life predicated on the smooth functioning of modern civil services (law enforcement, food delivery, garbage pick-ups, street cleaning, etc.), immediately donated huge amounts of food, water, and medical supplies to allow the anarchists to settle in for a long siege.


https://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2...east-precinct/

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

pretty cool "restructure"

published 8 hours ago
Seattle protesters declare 'cop free zone' after police leave precinct

Seattle has been making big news in the last couple of days. The first major story emerged Tuesday when police ceded an entire neighborhood to Antifa and Black Lives Matter, representatives of which barricaded a large segment of the Capitol Hill neighborhood and declared the area an “autonomous” community, separate from Seattle itself. The second newsworthy story occurred when thousands of leftist protesters led by Black Lives Matter and Antifa entered City Hall shortly after midnight on Wednesday, demanding that Mayor Jenny Durkan (a Democrat) resign.

On Tuesday, the police in Seattle’s Eastern District had initially battled with the rioters, using tear gas and flashbangs. Eventually, recognizing that anything short of a military-style defense was a waste of police time and put police lives at risk, the police abandoned the Eastern Precinct. They shredded important and confidential documents, boarded up the windows, and walked away, leaving the people whom they serve to the mob’s mercy.

The mob set up barricades around the streets and announced a new independent community called the “Capitol Hill autonomous zone” or “Free Capitol Hill.” Because this is Seattle, residents of the city, rather than looking at the probably and imminent end of a comfortable life predicated on the smooth functioning of modern civil services (law enforcement, food delivery, garbage pick-ups, street cleaning, etc.), immediately donated huge amounts of food, water, and medical supplies to allow the anarchists to settle in for a long siege.


https://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2...east-precinct/

Funny, the blog post you cite doesn't even mention anything about BLM or Antifa. All the police did was pull back from their barricade and it looks like the tensions went away...

But keep spreading misinformation, maybe you could work for the Trump campaign.

[Pete F.]

American democracy isn't pretty, is it?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Nobody is suggesting the police should be disbanded.

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The Minneapolis City Council unanimously voted Friday to “dismantle” the city’s police department as their solution to police violence after George Floyd’s death.

The City Council passed a resolution to focus on a community-based public safety system. President Lisa Bender, City Council Vice President Andrea Jenkins and other council members made the announcement at a rally Sunday afternoon, saying they plan to “dismantle” their police department. The money for the police will instead go towards a “community-based public safety model,” according to Reuters.


this is going to be so much fun

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by spence

There are tens of thousands of Antifa marching on DC right now.
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No, but hundreds, at night, probably a similar amount more or less from hard right looking to stir crap up.

Originally Posted by wdmso

If the aftermath of floyds death upsets you more than his death and how he died. thats the bigger problem
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In the aftermath of Floyd's death, protesters are demanding that the cities defund the police, in some places cities are discussing JUST THAT.

For decades some agencies have been doing some reform (not enough in some places, probably adequate in others) . How do we balance people actually doing bad things (plenty of bad white people and black people doing illegal things)?.

But now, rather than having a look at how he died and how to address it, cities are going to eliminate parts of the police force. What is going to happen to those inner cities now with Cops reduced in number.


Wayne, what happens when they come for your job and demand the Union not protect members or even worse, remove security officers from positions altogether. What happens to the officers left?

Originally Posted by wdmso

Now your needles have change tune to what no one has ever disputed there is a difference between a protester and a looter and rioter

Bullcrap. We are constantly hearing that it is totes legit to riot.

[Ian]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Bullcrap. We are constantly hearing that it is totes legit to riot.

Who said that?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

No, but hundreds, at night, probably a similar amount more or less from hard right looking to stir crap up.

And yet there were no problems and no arrests. Perhaps the terrorists were just having a nice late night game of bocci.