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spence · 10-29-2020, 08:46 AM

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In all seriousness, if the election were last November before covid, when we were prosperous and at peace, he would have won in an absolute rout. The arrival of covid, and the willingness of the media to ignore what democrats actually said in January and claim instead that they were advocating for policies (which they won't specify) that would have prevented all deaths which are now all Trumps fault, will be a tough hurdle to overcome. And of course Trump doesn't always help himself.

Likewise, the only thing the media will say about the viable theory that the Bidens sold influence to our adversaries, is that anyone who says its possible, is acting as a Russian agent. And facebok and twitter are actively censoring any posts. I'm not sure this is what the founders had in mind when they went out of their way to carve out meaningful, special proections for the press. On every network except 1, coverage is 99% favorable for Biden and 99% negative for Trump. That's not news, its not even close to news.

If Trump pulls this off (Biden's comments about oil and fracking in the last debate COULD cost him PA, that was an idiotic blunder by Biden), the entire polling industry should go away. They can all become weathermen.

Ahhh I see Jim has moved into the excuse phase of grief.

Jim in CT · 10-29-2020, 09:09 AM

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Ahhh I see Jim has moved into the excuse phase of grief.

tell me, before covid, how
much air time do you think cnn and msnbc dedicated to praising trump for low minority unemployment and criminal justice reform?
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Got Stripers · 10-29-2020, 09:35 AM

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tell me, before covid, how
much air time do you think cnn and msnbc dedicated to praising trump for low minority unemployment and criminal justice reform?
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Jim there are over 20,000 reasons why the coverage seemed negative most of the time, Trump has acted like a nut job since day one and the lies started on Inauguration Day. Actually the lies started as soon as he started running for President.

Jim in CT · 10-29-2020, 09:38 AM

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Jim there are over 20,000 reasons why the coverage seemed negative most of the time, Trump has acted like a nut job since day one and the lies started on Inauguration Day. Actually the lies started as soon as he started running for President.

Again, I have zero issue with giving time to his lies, moral lapses, vindictive tweets, etc. That's part of who he is, and it's absolutely fair to call him out for that.

But fairness and accuracy would suggest that some amount of time be dedicated to honest discussions about his achievements. Do you think networks other than Foxnews do that?

The networks still conned you to being unable to just say that he disavowed white supremacists at Charlottesville. The video is there, we know he disavowed them, but you can't admit it.

Jim in CT · 10-29-2020, 09:42 AM

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Jim there are over 20,000 reasons why the coverage seemed negative most of the time, Trump has acted like a nut job since day one and the lies started on Inauguration Day. Actually the lies started as soon as he started running for President.

Can you explain to me how we'd be better off, if we had a POTUS who lied less often, but didn't do as good of a job growing the economy, and/or got us into wars we didn't need to be in, or who didn't increase funding for black colleges, or who didn't make us energy independent, and who didn't make this progress in the Middle East?

GS, if you needed immediate life saving surgery, and I was the admitting nurse at the hospital, and I told you this, tell me which you'd pick?

If I said "you can pick from 2 doctors. One is a really nice guy, very honest, and a pretty good doctor. The other is a real SOB who cheats on his wife with porn stars, lies about his golf handicap, hes crass and boorish and vulgar, hates everyone who disagrees with him, but he's a better technical surgeon with a slightly higher survival rate", WHICH WOULD YOU PICK?

Have fun with that.

Got Stripers · 10-29-2020, 10:36 AM

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Can you explain to me how we'd be better off, if we had a POTUS who lied less often, but didn't do as good of a job growing the economy, and/or got us into wars we didn't need to be in, or who didn't increase funding for black colleges, or who didn't make us energy independent, and who didn't make this progress in the Middle East?

GS, if you needed immediate life saving surgery, and I was the admitting nurse at the hospital, and I told you this, tell me which you'd pick?

If I said "you can pick from 2 doctors. One is a really nice guy, very honest, and a pretty good doctor. The other is a real SOB who cheats on his wife with porn stars, lies about his golf handicap, hes crass and boorish and vulgar, hates everyone who disagrees with him, but he's a better technical surgeon with a slightly higher survival rate", WHICH WOULD YOU PICK?

Have fun with that.

Jim I don’t have to explain, because I think he has done a miserable job, so yes I think anyone with a brain and a skin thicker than tissue paper would have done better. To Petes point above thank god we weren’t pulled into a conflict, I can’t even imagine how badly that might have gone, we he thinks he knows more than anyone. That analogy just proves how desperate you are.

Jim in CT · 10-29-2020, 10:39 AM

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Jim I don’t have to explain, because I think he has done a miserable job, so yes I think anyone with a brain and a skin thicker than tissue paper would have done better. To Petes point above thank god we weren’t pulled into a conflict, I can’t even imagine how badly that might have gone, we he thinks he knows more than anyone.

"I think he has done a miserable job"

Backed up with logic as unassailable, as saying the economy is at its worst point since the Great Depression. That being the case, he must have done a miserable job.

"To Petes point above thank god we weren’t pulled into a conflict, I can’t even imagine how badly that might have gone"

You don't have to speculate. Ask ISIS how it went to be in a conflict with him.

When you ignore everything good he has done, and focus fanatically on his bad points, I admit he looks really bad.

spence · 10-29-2020, 10:20 AM

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Jim there are over 20,000 reasons why the coverage seemed negative most of the time, Trump has acted like a nut job since day one and the lies started on Inauguration Day. Actually the lies started as soon as he started running for President.

The lies started closer to 1946.

Got Stripers · 10-29-2020, 10:38 AM

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The lies started closer to 1946.

Good point!

Jim in CT · 10-29-2020, 10:46 AM

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The lies started closer to 1946.

But Bidens plagiarism, his lies about being arrested with Nelson Mandela, his lies about his civil rights activism in the US, none of those matter. Lies are only bad when Republicans tell them.

Similarly, Biden's willingness to demonize those who disagree with him (Republicans want blacks in chains, blacks ain't really black if they don't vote for Biden), that's OK when Biden does it. Thin-skinned vindictiveness is only problematic when Trump does it.

And profiting off of public service. We aren't supposed to even discuss if Biden did it, but it's a big big deal when Trump does it.