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11-18-2020, 07:44 AM
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Every second of this post election period is strengthening my conviction that the American experiment would not have survived another Trump term
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11-18-2020, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Every second of this post election period is strengthening my conviction that the American experiment would not have survived another Trump term
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It would never had been his fault Trumps base cult love for him wouldn’t allow it.
They think he stopped NK a they Think he fixed Iran They think he showed China they think he helped farmers, they loved his spending the think he rebuilt the military. And now they think the election was stolen all because
Trump said so..
Yet they demand to be respected and listened to. Because in their Eyes they are True Americans And not costal elites
Even with that term their knowledge of Where states are is comical
Since when is NV NM CO MN MI IL and GA been elites
Still you have the 2 Dakotas plus WY and MT all getting 12 electoral votes combined plus 8 Senate seats for a combined population of a tad over 2 million while Ma has 11 electoral votes 2 senators and a population of 6.7 million , talk about every States getting a participation Trophy sad that 2 million people over 4 states have more say then one state 5million more Americans
Republicans won’t change it they won’t swap equatable when the have the Advantage
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11-18-2020, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
It would never had been his fault Trumps base cult love for him wouldn’t allow it.
They think he stopped NK a they Think he fixed Iran They think he showed China they think he helped farmers, they loved his spending the think he rebuilt the military. And now they think the election was stolen all because
Trump said so..
Yet they demand to be respected and listened to. Because in their Eyes they are True Americans And not costal elites
Even with that term their knowledge of Where states are is comical
Since when is NV NM CO MN MI IL and GA been elites
Still you have the 2 Dakotas plus WY and MT all getting 12 electoral votes combined plus 8 Senate seats for a combined population of a tad over 2 million while Ma has 11 electoral votes 2 senators and a population of 6.7 million , talk about every States getting a participation Trophy sad that 2 million people over 4 states have more say then one state 5million more Americans
Republicans won’t change it they won’t swap equatable when the have the Advantage
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ask the democrats in the small
states if they want to do away with the electoral college, I’d sincerely be curious to know what they think.
wasn’t that long ago, when democratic presidential
candidates did just fine within the electoral college. the people in flyover country didn’t tell the DNC to march a million miles to the left, embracing late term abortions, open borders, student loan forgiveness, single payer healthcare, hating religion, reparations, green new deals, defunding the police, court stacking, etc...
if you want to embrace positions that people don’t like, there will be consequences. i hate to be the one to tell you.
They didn’t force Hilary to refer to them as deplorable and irredeemable. She put that in. scripted remark, it’s on her if people
didn’t like it.
here’s a shocking idea...since those people are americans too, maybe the dnc could adopt policies that are a bit more palatable to them.
Bill Clinton knew how to be everyone’s president. a good lesson for democrats and republicans alike.
the democrats will eventually run out of minorities to check off, and at some point they’ll have to nominate someone who will run on their policies, not their skin tone or genitalia.
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11-18-2020, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
ask the democrats in the small
states if they want to do away with the electoral college, I’d sincerely be curious to know what they think.
wasn’t that long ago, when democratic presidential
candidates did just fine within the electoral college. the people in flyover country didn’t tell the DNC to march a million miles to the left, embracing late term abortions, open borders, student loan forgiveness, single payer healthcare, hating religion, reparations, green new deals, defunding the police, court stacking, etc...
if you want to embrace positions that people don’t like, there will be consequences. i hate to be the one to tell you.
They didn’t force Hilary to refer to them as deplorable and irredeemable. She put that in. scripted remark, it’s on her if people
didn’t like it.
here’s a shocking idea...since those people are americans too, maybe the dnc could adopt policies that are a bit more palatable to them.
Bill Clinton knew how to be everyone’s president. a good lesson for democrats and republicans alike.
the democrats will eventually run out of minorities to check off, and at some point they’ll have to nominate someone who will run on their policies, not their skin tone or genitalia.
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I guess Republicans will never be short of white grievance race baiting lying candidates with guys like you supporting them with out question
And Why do conservatives see everything in absolute terms . They do it all the time .. wanting back ground checks is taking fire arms. Supporting a women’s right to choose , don’t respect life , against discrimination, is attacking religion
Talking about adjusting the electoral college or senate allotment , is seen as removing it
Is that all conservatives can to is lie as a counter argument. It’s beyond old
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11-18-2020, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
I guess Republicans will never be short of white grievance race baiting lying candidates with guys like you supporting them with out question
And Why do conservatives see everything in absolute terms . They do it all the time .. wanting back ground checks is taking fire arms. Supporting a women’s right to choose , don’t respect life , against discrimination, is attacking religion
Talking about adjusting the electoral college or senate allotment , is seen as removing it
Is that all conservatives can to is lie as a counter argument. It’s beyond old
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oh republicans are the race baiters? republicans are the ones who make an issue out of race. that’s what you’re saying?
i agree with you on background checks.
adjust the electoral college all you want, but it needs to be done by constitutional amendment, which means a large majority of the states need to agree to it. ain’t gonna happen. so again, the better strategy for democrats would be to abandon san francisco liberalism, and work with people
in the midwest instead of endlessly mocking them.
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11-18-2020, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
I guess Republicans will never be short of white grievance race baiting lying candidates with guys like you supporting them with out question
And Why do conservatives see everything in absolute terms . They do it all the time .. wanting back ground checks is taking fire arms. Supporting a women’s right to choose , don’t respect life , against discrimination, is attacking religion
Talking about adjusting the electoral college or senate allotment , is seen as removing it
Is that all conservatives can to is lie as a counter argument. It’s beyond old
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no one is saying that opposing discrimination is attacking religion. what are you responding to?
Not allowing people to disagree with gay marriage for religious reasons, is absolutely attacking religion.
put it this way. when obama was president, a distribution company in michigan transported a lot of alcohol. their
muslim truck drivers refused to transport alcohol for religious reasons, and they were fired.
Obama’s labor department sued on their behalf and won. the obama
administration said that people
cannot be forced to abandon their religious beliefs while at work.
now, if that applies to muslim truck drivers, why doesn’t it apply to christian briers or christian photographers?
Answer - discrimination.
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11-18-2020, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
no one is saying that opposing discrimination is attacking religion. what are you responding to?
Not allowing people to disagree with gay marriage for religious reasons, is absolutely attacking religion.
put it this way. when obama was president, a distribution company in michigan transported a lot of alcohol. their
muslim truck drivers refused to transport alcohol for religious reasons, and they were fired.
Obama’s labor department sued on their behalf and won. the obama
administration said that people
cannot be forced to abandon their religious beliefs while at work.
now, if that applies to muslim truck drivers, why doesn’t it apply to christian briers or christian photographers?
Answer - discrimination.
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once again you do no research
A jury has awarded $240,000 to two Muslim men who say they were fired from an Illinois tr#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g company after refusing to deliver alcohol.
reasonable accommodation
again employer and employee are not seen the same under the law
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11-18-2020, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
once again you do no research
A jury has awarded $240,000 to two Muslim men who say they were fired from an Illinois tr#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g company after refusing to deliver alcohol.
reasonable accommodation
again employer and employee are not seen the same under the law
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So why doesn't that "resonable accommodation" apply to the Christian baker or photographer? Why can't the happy couple use anpther baker?
"again employer and employee are not seen the same under the law'
Who said they are the same? Can you go two seconds without accusing me of saying something I never came close to saying?
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