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Old 10-06-2021, 11:00 AM   #1
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"Jim why even mention migrants and Covid at all in the same sentence."

Because 200,000 of them were encountered on our side of the border, and one result showed that 1 in 5 had covid. That's 40,000 covid-positive migrants coming across in a month, and that's just the ones that BP encountered. Who knows how many more there are.

I answered your question. Can you answer mine? Why do you think it' snot even worth mentioning, that our open borders are essentially importing as many as 40,000 covid-positive people in a month? Why are you so intent on sweeping that under the rug?

"unless it’s to blame and deflect from actual happening.. in the US with Covid"

We can't talk about two things at once? Maybe you can't, most of us can. I'm not deflecting anything. There are multiple facets to this, I go where the truth (not where CNN) takes me.

"Only conservatives are trying to tie migrants to Covid"

SO you deny that tens of thousands of covid-positive migrants are likely coming across the southern border?

Wayne, when I brought this up, you immediately pivoted to the insignificantly low number of migrants who were granted asylum. You completely ignored the much, much larger number of illegal migrants. Then you claimed the illegals are never in the USA. So it appears to us that youre the one who is lying and deflecting.

You say you want to address covid, but you won't admit any issue with 40,000 covid-positive people crossing in a single month, in addition to god-knows-how-many others that were never encountered by BPS. We all know they don't catch all of them.

So one of two things is happening. Either you don't think that importing 40,000 sick people a month is worthy of discussing, or you refuse to discuss it because the underlying issue (open border) is a losing issue for your political agenda.

I have seen just about every conservatives here, criticize conservatives a few times. None of the liberals here except Rockhound, are capable of it. Never.

you still have no understand of how encounters do not equal entrance

you assume somehow 40,000 sick people a month are traveling around the US spreading Covid .. the open border lie runs deep in your mind

We have the same border we had under Trump nothing has changed people arrive and are returned stop being so obtuse ..

the Biden administration keeps Trump-era rule of turning away migrants during pandemic..., but seem you missed that memo
another example

https://www.statesman.com/

the vast majority of migrants encountered by Border Patrol are sent back to Mexico under Title 42 — a Trump-era policy designed to curb COVID-19 spread that the Biden administration has left in place.


.. And how would we know 1 in 5 have covid ? because the last republican lie was they weren't being tested..


the U.S. Department of Homeland Security told PolitiFact that it works with state authorities, local authorities and non-governmental organizations to ensure that “100% of noncitizens” are tested for COVID-19 "at some point during their immigration journey." The agency also has told PolitiFact that a negative coronavirus test is required by the federal government before entry to the U.S.


Jim no one on the left or middle have said no migrants don't have covid we just dont Blame them like republicans have done to avoid whos responsible for the explosion of Covid 19 in their base of support .. And we can talk about 2 things at once but once again these 2 things are not remotely the same

its Just republicans promoting fear of the other


Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick went on Fox News Thursday night to address the issue, further stoking political flames.

“The revolution has begun, a silent revolution by the Democrat Party and Joe Biden to take over this country," said Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, (R) Texas. "We need every state, every red state because the blue ones won't do it, to send and invoke Article four, section four, of the constitution, to tell the president that we are being invaded.”
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Old 10-06-2021, 11:10 AM   #2
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We have the same border we had under Trump nothing has changed people arrive and are returned stop being so obtuse ..

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You're saying under Trump, we had 200,000 encounters a month? The number of people crossing illegally, hasn't skyrocketed under Biden, is that what you're saying?

"people arrive and are returned"

What's the process for returning these people? Where do they go, and how long are they there? My understanding is that many of them are let go in the US, after promising to show up to a future court date. Is that wrong? How are they processed?

I'm not saying they spend years traveling the country, kissing everyone they see to spread covid. But you seem to be saying they are all immediately returned in a way that doesn't expose Americans to their covid, and I'm sure that's not true either.
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