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Old 10-21-2021, 09:42 AM   #1
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if you didn't know what he said and you read this thread.... you'd think he said "rot in hell"...trump derangement syndrome...you guys know he isn't president anymore....right?
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Old 10-21-2021, 09:50 AM   #2
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if you didn't know what he said and you read this thread.... you'd think he said "rot in hell"...trump derangement syndrome...you guys know he isn't president anymore....right?
trump wasn’t even wrong, Powell was one of the key architects of america’s worst foreign disaster since the vietnam war.

when george bush dies, people
won’t be shy about connecting him to the iraq war. and there’s nothing wrong with mentioning that connection, because it’s true.

TDS, boy. what else are they going to focus on? great jobs reports? low inflation? low crime? a secure border?
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Old 10-21-2021, 11:06 AM   #3
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trump wasn’t even wrong, Powell was one of the key architects of america’s worst foreign disaster since the vietnam war.

when george bush dies, people
won’t be shy about connecting him to the iraq war. and there’s nothing wrong with mentioning that connection, because it’s true.

TDS, boy. what else are they going to focus on? great jobs reports? low inflation? low crime? a secure border?
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Jim echoing the rights mantra

Trump wasn’t wrong

FYI

Jim the borders haven’t changed
Jobs are fine just nobody wants the #^&#^&#^&#^& ones
Crime is crime still lower than decades ago
And inflationary trends are world wide
You left out the stock market is still breaking records

And unemployment is 4.5%

Here are some Trump stats from his term


The economy lost 2.9 million jobs.

The unemployment rate increased by 1.6 percentage points to 6.3%.

After-tax corporate profits went up, and the stock market set new records.
The international trade deficit Trump promised to reduce went up. The U.S. trade deficit in goods and services in 2020 was the highest since 2008 and increased 40.5% from 2016.

The number of people lacking health insurance rose by 3 million.

The federal debt held by the public went up, from $14.4 trillion to $21.6 trillion.
Home prices rose 27.5%,

Illegal immigration increased. Apprehensions at the Southwest border rose 14.7% last year compared with 2016.

Coal production declined 26.5%, and coal-mining jobs dropped by 16.7%. Carbon emissions from energy consumption dropped 11.5%.

Handgun production rose 12.5% last year compared with 2016, setting a new record.

The murder rate last year rose to the highest level since 1997.

Trump filled one-third of the Supreme Court, nearly 30% of the appellate court seats and a quarter of District Court seats.

Biden still got 3.4 years to go but we know how the Republicans plan obstructing anything. No matter how many Americans want it or will benefit from Dems legislation …

Republicans are even against national holiday to vote.. can’t have Americans voting in large numbers they don’t vote Republican
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I'm against all holidays...don't we have enough already?
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Old 10-21-2021, 11:37 AM   #5
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Let's stick with this.

Are you going to state here, that the situation at the border isn't different than it was a year ago? We don't have meaningfully more people crossing now? Is that what you're saying?

I'm trying to talk to you Wayne, you make it impossible when you say nonsense like that. "The border" itself, the physical border, hasn't changed, there hasn't been an earthquake that would change the border. But the situation at the border, has changed drastically. And no one gives a sh*t if you can't accept that. America sees it, which is why Biden's numbers are tanking (but Spence says he's actually doing well, so you can ignore that too).

"You left out the stock market is still breaking records"

True, and important to mention. But you would never discuss that when Trump was president.
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Let's stick with this.

Are you going to state here, that the situation at the border isn't different than it was a year ago? We don't have meaningfully more people crossing now? Is that what you're saying?

what you see at the border is only new in your imagination Illegal immigration increased. Apprehensions at the Southwest border rose 14.7% last year compared with 2016.



I'm trying to talk to you Wayne, you make it impossible when you say nonsense like that. "The border" itself, the physical border, hasn't changed, there hasn't been an earthquake that would change the border. But the situation at the border, has changed drastically. And no one gives a sh*t if you can't accept that. America sees it, which is why Biden's numbers are tanking (but Spence says he's actually doing well, so you can ignore that too).

And if you think by me saying the border hasn't changed is somehow about its physical appearance your making thing up again ... you must think apprehension equal admission into the the Country ? what laws Has Biden changes that Trump passed ? NONE executive orders are just that.. so what's Changed on our side NOTHING .. But clearly more are trying on the mexican side..

"You left out the stock market is still breaking records"

True, and important to mention. But you would never discuss that when Trump was president. I mentioned that because you gave much praise to Trump for the markets and now crickets I did not
FYI 19 Republicans who voted in favor of the Infrastructure bill how many dems 50?

but thanks for focusing on the ONLY bill some Republicans voted on

how many Bill have they filibustered ... And republicans dare speak about the tyranny of the majority !

when it's more like GOP's tyranny of the minority

here's an example A Fox News poll released last week found that 67 percent of voters support requiring teachers and students to wear masks in schools. Even in the “reddish” state of Florida,

Gov. Ron DeSantis don’t appear to care what the majority of voters want; instead, many are singularly concerned with what keeps the GOP base happy.

The GOP is giving us a master class in the tyranny of the minority. Republicans across the nation are enacting polices on issues from Covid safeguards to restrictions on abortion and voting rights that are opposed by a solid majority of Americans — but are supported by the much smaller GOP base.

that's the real threat to America
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FYI 19 what you see at the border is only new in your imagination Illegal immigration increased.
Gibberish. You say noting changed, then say illegal crossings increased.
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Gibberish. You say noting changed, then say illegal crossings increased.
apprehensions do you understand what that means do you understand they go up and down and have done so even under your beloved Trump
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FYI 19 Republicans who voted in favor of the Infrastructure bill how many dems 50?

but thanks for focusing on the ONLY bill some Republicans voted on

how many Bill have they filibustered ... And republicans dare speak about the tyranny of the majority !

when it's more like GOP's tyranny of the minority

here's an example A Fox News poll released last week found that 67 percent of voters support requiring teachers and students to wear masks in schools. Even in the “reddish” state of Florida,

Gov. Ron DeSantis don’t appear to care what the majority of voters want; instead, many are singularly concerned with what keeps the GOP base happy.

The GOP is giving us a master class in the tyranny of the minority. Republicans across the nation are enacting polices on issues from Covid safeguards to restrictions on abortion and voting rights that are opposed by a solid majority of Americans — but are supported by the much smaller GOP base.

that's the real threat to America
"Republicans who voted in favor of the Infrastructure bill how many dems 50? "

FACT: that infastructure bill did not pass, because the progressive democrats hijacked it. Not because of anything the GOP did.

"how many Bill have they filibustered

Beats me. How many did the democrats fillibuster under Trump? Zero? Or do you only oppose fillibustering when the democrats are in control?

"when it's more like GOP's tyranny of the minority "

Cue the sinister music. Dun dun dun!!!

"67 percent of voters support requiring teachers and students to wear masks in schools. Even in the “reddish” state of Florida,"

But the science doesn't support little kids wearing masks in schools. So I don't care what the majority wants.

"Gov. Ron DeSantis don’t appear to care what the majority of voters want;"

That must explain why he's so unpopular there, and why everyone is fleeing FL and moving to CA instead!

"Republicans across the nation are enacting polices on issues from Covid safeguards to restrictions on abortion"

I don't think people elect republicans because they promised to make abortion more widespread.

We get it, you don't like republicans. But there are huge pockets of the population that embrace conservatism. You need to learn to deal with it. Sometimes you get your way at election time, sometimes you don't. As Obama liked to say, "elections have consequences."

Unless there's another major crisis, the midterms are going to be a referendum on what America thinks about open borders, abortion until birth, men going to the bathroom with little girls, demonizing the police, viewing EVERYTHING through the lens of race, huge spikes in the price of gas, meaningful inflation for the first time in many many years, green new deals, druggies shooting up on the lawns of public elementary schools, China continuing to rise in power, etc. Not all of that is the fault of Democrats, but not all of covid was Trump's fault, either. Sometimes you're in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Obama got absolutely creamed in his first midterm. And Biden isn't Obama.

The Republicans don't need to do anything, just sit back and watch AOC lead the entire democratic party right off the lefty cliff.
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"Republicans who voted in favor of the Infrastructure bill how many dems 50? "

FACT: that infastructure bill did not pass, because the progressive democrats hijacked it. Not because of anything the GOP did.

it hasn't been voted on yet to be signed into law but hea why would know that

"how many Bill have they filibustered

Beats me. How many did the democrats fillibuster under Trump? Zero? Or do you only oppose fillibustering when the democrats are in control? like none because Mitch wouldn't bring a vote on a bill unless he knew Trump would sign it Hundreds of bills created in the House of Representatives lingered in McConnell's dead bill file! Soooooo filibuster opportunities were unavailable!
"when it's more like GOP's tyranny of the minority "

Cue the sinister music. Dun dun dun!!!

"67 percent of voters support requiring teachers and students to wear masks in schools. Even in the “reddish” state of Florida,"

But the science doesn't support little kids wearing masks in schools. So I don't care what the majority wants. Whos science jim yours

"Gov. Ron DeSantis don’t appear to care what the majority of voters want;"

That must explain why he's so unpopular there, and why everyone is fleeing FL and moving to CA instead! get a new argument thats relevant

"Republicans across the nation are enacting polices on issues from Covid safeguards to restrictions on abortion"

I don't think people elect republicans because they promised to make abortion more widespread. ya ok

We get it, you don't like republicans. But there are huge pockets of the population that embrace conservatism. and do you have a point other then they live in gerrymandered districts or in states that get 2 senators and have less populations then some Cities You need to learn to deal with it. Sometimes you get your way at election time, sometimes you don't. As Obama liked to say, "elections have consequences." yes jim elections have consequences when the republican is willing to rig the game to hold so many seats while representing only if you add up the population of states and assign half to each of their two senators, “the Democratic half of the Senate represents 41,549,808 more people than the Republican half.”

Unless there's another major crisis, the midterms are going to be a referendum on what America thinks about open borders, abortion until birth, men going to the bathroom with little girls, demonizing the police, viewing EVERYTHING through the lens of race, huge spikes in the price of gas, meaningful inflation for the first time in many many years, green new deals, druggies shooting up on the lawns of public elementary schools, China continuing to rise in power, etc. Not all of that is the fault of Democrats, but not all of covid was Trump's fault, either. Sometimes you're in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Obama got absolutely creamed in his first midterm. And Biden isn't Obama.

The Republicans don't need to do anything, just sit back and watch AOC lead the entire democratic party right off the lefty cliff.
we'll see who the republicans put forward as candidates it will be interesting .. that 41,549,808 million more people than the republican Half just saying
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Except the Republicans voted for the 1.5 trillion dollar infastructure bill. America wants that, and the Republicans voted for it.

But your side stalled it, tying it to a 3.5 trillion package.

So who is obstructing? Please, please explain how the GOP killed the infastructure bill which a majority of Americans actually want? And which the republicans voted for?

Republicans are ba-a-a-a-a-a-d. Keep bleating it Wayne, Republicans are b-a-a-a-a-a-d.
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Except the Republicans voted for the 1.5 trillion dollar infastructure bill. America wants that, and the Republicans voted for it.

But your side stalled it, tying it to a 3.5 trillion package.

So who is obstructing? Please, please explain how the GOP killed the infastructure bill which a majority of Americans actually want? And which the republicans voted for?

Republicans are ba-a-a-a-a-a-d. Keep bleating it Wayne, Republicans are b-a-a-a-a-a-d.
see you at the meeting
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The Republicans blocked the $1.5 trillion infastructure bill, not the progressive democrats. That's what he's saying.
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if you didn't know what he said and you read this thread.... you'd think he said "rot in hell"...trump derangement syndrome...you guys know he isn't president anymore....right?
Maybe you should tell his supporters he isn’t president.. seeing you’re not one to pay attention to what is actually going on in the. World . unless it’s grammatically incorrect .
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