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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I'm going to try and talk to you like an adult here, let's see how it goes...
"Abortion opponents, some of whom are conservative, think that other people are required to conform to their beliefs."
Wrong.
Every single criminal law on the books, is an attempt by society (not just anti abortion people) to get others to comply with rules of conduct. Abortion is not unique in this regard, in any way. Liberals just frame it this way, because that's a lot easier for them, than honestly debating what my side is saying.
Pete, are you OK with laws which saw that women can not hurt someone else?
I assume you are. And on that point, you and I agree.
The only topic on which we disagree (therefore, the only issue that actually matters here) is whether or not the unborn baby represents "someone else".
There are all kinds of laws that limit what women can do with their bodies. They can't inject heroin, female teachers cannot be involved with male students, etc...Yet you are OK with those laws. You are OK with all kinds of laws which limit the choices women can make.
Because you agree that women can make whatever choices they want, as long as they don't harm someone else.
So the debate has absolutely nothing to do with women's rights, or choice, or any of that other nonsense...it has everything to do with whether or not the baby is "someone else".
That's literally all that matters.
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Your belief, which you want to impose on everyone else is that life begins s at some artificial point prior to birth.
The debate has everything to do with your desire to require other people to conform to your belief and in doing so taking away their right to their own beliefs.
I'm old enough to remember discussions about JFK being a papist and concern about Catholics gaining power and imposing their beliefs on the rest of Americans. I'm beginning see their concerns come true with 7 Catholic Justices.
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