Maxine Waters: “The hell with the Supreme Court. We will defy them”.

[wdmso]

I've heard OBGYNs tell of unborn babies trying, always unsuccessfully, to fight off the instruments of abortion


OMG how gullible are you? Now we have karate fetus self aware of threats bobbing and weaving in the womb
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

I've heard OBGYNs tell of unborn babies trying, always unsuccessfully, to fight off the instruments of abortion


OMG how gullible are you? Now we have karate fetus self aware of threats bobbing and weaving in the womb
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you’re denying they can feel pain? is that what you’re saying?

your post above is so deranged, so not even close to what i said ( hence TDFs remark about you constantly hearing things that are t said), it’s harder than usual
to decipher your gibberish.

again, the only reason why you routinely wildly distort what i said, is because as dim as you are, even you know you can’t respond to what i actually said.

Let’s be very clear…do you deny that unborn babies can feel pain in the womb?


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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you’re denying they can feel pain? is that what you’re saying?

your post above is so deranged, so not even close to what i said ( hence TDFs remark about you constantly hearing things that are t said), it’s harder than usual
to decipher your gibberish.

again, the only reason why you routinely wildly distort what i said, is because as dim as you are, even you know you can’t respond to what i actually said.

Let’s be very clear…do you deny that unborn babies can feel pain in the womb?


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Now it’s about pain ? That’s not what you said do you read your own posts ? what did I miss . Or is this you just moving the goal posts again when called out on your nonsense

Jim how can a fetus have and concept of pain ?
Stop applying your self awareness as if a fetus is self aware it smell of desperation
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim how can a fetus have and concept of pain ?

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why do doctors often spank babies just after they’re born? do you know?

I shouldn’t be surprised that you’d be the only person stupid enough to deny that at some point they feel
pain. Doctors differ in when that is, but current estimates are around 15 weeks
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Now it’s about pain ? That’s not what you said do you read your own posts ? what did I miss . Or is this you just moving the goal posts again when called out on your nonsense

Jim how can a fetus have and concept of pain ?
Stop applying your self awareness as if a fetus is self aware it smell of desperation
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I'll answer for you. Doctors spank newborns (or used to), to get them to cry, so they can make sure they are breathing.

Why do you suppose that spanking newborns, makes them cry? Because they feel the pain. So if they can feel pain one second after birth, are you going to tell me you have facts to support the idiotic notion that they can't feel pain one minute before birth? You think amniotic fluid is a painkiller?

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/845410

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

I've heard OBGYNs tell of unborn babies trying, always unsuccessfully, to fight off the instruments of abortion


OMG how gullible are you? Now we have karate fetus self aware of threats bobbing and weaving in the womb
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So you edited this, but will you say why?

Here, according to the American Academy of Pediatrics, mentions fetal pain as early as 20-21 weeks.

And when surgery is performed on the unborn, they give anesthesia as early as 14 weeks "to ameliorate pain".

But you know more than they do. Right?

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/ful...43639211059245

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So you edited this, but will you say why?

Here, according to the American Academy of Pediatrics, mentions fetal pain as early as 20-21 weeks.

And when surgery is performed on the unborn, they give anesthesia as early as 14 weeks "to ameliorate pain".

But you know more than they do. Right?

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/ful...43639211059245

I copied what you wrote , sorry didn’t edit a thing

Did you read the article

Current neuroscientific evidence indicates the possibility of fetal pain perception

Possibility A thing that may happen or be the case.

And it’s a letter to the editor . Not a peer reviewed study ..



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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

I copied what you wrote , sorry didn’t edit a thing

Did you read the article

Current neuroscientific evidence indicates the possibility of fetal pain perception

Possibility A thing that may happen or be the case.

And it’s a letter to the editor . Not a peer reviewed study ..



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again, why did doctors routinely spank newborns the second after they were born? what was the purpose?

and the hell you didn’t edit that post of yours. you edited your words, after saying it was stupid to suggest fetuses can feel pain. it’s only a question of when they feel pain, current thinking is 15-20 weeks in some circles.

didn’t you say abortion should only be allowed until viability? why? why would you force a woman to surrender her right to bodily autonomy and healthcare decisions? and whenever you define “viability”, please explain to be why the baby is different at that moment, than he is an hour before? how can you have any idea when a specific baby is viable?
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