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View Poll Results: Do you get your herring after theyve spawned?
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04-04-2004, 12:59 PM
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here fishy fishy
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: westport,ma.
Posts: 3,111
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ok so lets say i do manage to net one and i knock off some of the scales. should i pick them up and put them back on? is there some place where i can buy replacement scales? if more than 2 scales are missing should i let it go so it can grow some more?
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redcrbbr
of all the things i've lost...i miss my mind the most!!
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04-04-2004, 01:00 PM
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#32
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Wishin' for fishin'
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Brockton
Posts: 1,651
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Quote:
Originally posted by redcrbbr
i never thought about using a net to catch them...I bet you stay alot dryer that way.
What kind of net do you use? a baseball net?
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A herring dip net
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04-04-2004, 01:04 PM
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#33
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 4,449
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Oh, the deadly rear attack.
Hey Bloo, if you promise to get me some emplyoyee discounts on some flame broiled burgers, maybe I canm help you out with a flamin rear attack.
Good news is we don't have to go all the way to provincetown.
Dude, hook line and sinker.
LOL
Rick
PS- you don't need to bring a hairnet for me, I'm bald and have plenty of chum.
Rick
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04-04-2004, 01:04 PM
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#34
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 6,277
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Ok,,,,, will do.
I'm heading up that way in a few minutes, hopefully...I'll get to see them in action and report my findings.
red, he's done some "field testing".....the scales only matter sometimes...and don't try putting them back on either, I tried that...but more fell off  ...one day I dropped a few herring in the street..and a LOT of scales fell off.....I was so sad that day.
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 ... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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04-04-2004, 01:05 PM
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here fishy fishy
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: westport,ma.
Posts: 3,111
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you mean the actually sell nets made for netting herring..where have i been..what do they look like? where can i buy one? are they expensive? do they come with some kind of instructions?
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redcrbbr
of all the things i've lost...i miss my mind the most!!
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04-04-2004, 01:05 PM
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eh! What do you mean?
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Tiverton
Posts: 763
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Quote:
Originally posted by bloocrab
Can you please describe a "rear attack"? In full detail.....
I've heard of this approach being used in the Provincetown runs, but never really understood it.
Thanx
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LMAO
You have too many images in your post, please remove some.
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04-04-2004, 01:06 PM
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#37
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 4,449
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Oh red,
If you want to use the baseball net, I've got an extra for you to borrow.
Dude, it's gonna be so much easier than the scuba diving we used to do for them buggers...Especially up here in the Charles River. Gets a little icky down there, corpses and all.
Later,
Rick
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04-04-2004, 01:07 PM
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#38
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Wishin' for fishin'
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Brockton
Posts: 1,651
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Quote:
Originally posted by bloocrab
Redcrbbr mentioned staying dryer,,,,should I dry off the herring after I net them?? Does this work better? Does it help the scales stay on longer? I find that when I use my hair-net from Burger King, and catch them one at a time...I don't lose any scales....it's just tuff to catch them that way and everyone laughs at me...
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It is my personal observation that fish prefer to stay wet, swimming in water.
You can dry off the herring. I do not believe it works "better" than keeping them wet.
If you are happy with your netting technique, and it works for you, then I'm happy for you. I prefer to have the herring agent do all the work. The herring agent is a highly trained professional, and may keep "scale loss" to a minimum on the herring that is provided.
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04-04-2004, 01:10 PM
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#39
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 6,277
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Ricky......just mention S-B at the drive thru window....and I'll give all the 7 minute burgers. I work at the one with the big Burger King sign....brick faced building with windows on 3 sides.
If anyone needs hair-nets, let me know. They can be used in some interesting situations, not rated for PG sites though.
...please, let's get back on topic.
Striprman,...when you put a chunk of herring on the hook with the live herring..doesn't it wear him down, the weight of the chunk that is? ...and how do you fit both on the same hook, or do you use a trebble hook and utilize all 3 hooks?
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 ... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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04-04-2004, 01:13 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
Posts: 6,588
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you guys are f-ing funny!
i just woke up the baby laughing so hard!
i don't care either way, coming or going.
how do i tell if there done w/ there buisness or not?
i try to milk em' before they go for the car ride 
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04-04-2004, 01:14 PM
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#41
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 6,277
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I prefer to have the herring agent do all the work.
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You have an agent that nets all your herring for you? Are you a performer of sorts, having an agent and all....Does that allow you to net double the herring? Do you need 2 permits, or does your agent have special privelages because he's not going to use them? I've always thought about bringing some of my friends just to hang out so I could try to catch more herring. Is this against the law?
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 ... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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04-04-2004, 01:17 PM
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here fishy fishy
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: westport,ma.
Posts: 3,111
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they actually have herring agents??? where have i been??what do they look like? where can i buy one? are they expensive? do they come with some kind of instructions?
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redcrbbr
of all the things i've lost...i miss my mind the most!!
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04-04-2004, 01:20 PM
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#43
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Wishin' for fishin'
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Brockton
Posts: 1,651
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Quote:
Originally posted by redcrbbr
you mean the actually sell nets made for netting herring..where have i been..what do they look like? where can i buy one? are they expensive? do they come with some kind of instructions?
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Yes, they do exist, I got mine at Walmart. I've seen them being sold at other places that sell fishing gear.
You should post a new topic "Where can I get a herring dip net in the (name of your location) area ?"
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04-04-2004, 01:24 PM
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#44
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 6,277
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how do i tell if there done w/ there buisness or not?
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I think the faster swimming ones have NOT done their business yet, that's why they're swimming so fast...to get up in there. While the slower swimming ones, having lost their MOJO.....are a little lazy in their swimming pattern. Do all herring spawn? Are they ambi-sexi-dextrous?
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 ... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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04-04-2004, 01:28 PM
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 6,277
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...also, how do I keep my herring hard? Should I stroke them to get the blood flowing through their muscles? Sometimes my herring fall off while I cast them, I think these are the ones that have lost their MOJO, they seem very limp. Could I rejuvenate them if I stroked them?...to make them hard again? How do you keep your herring hard Striprman, do you have your agent stroke them?....or do you use some other technique learned through your field testing?
Thank you kindly-
Bloo
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 ... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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04-04-2004, 01:30 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
Posts: 6,588
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i thought when there done with there buisness, they take a nap?
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04-04-2004, 01:33 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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They light a smoke
Keep it on the clean side gents - can see this doing a death spiral (if I could see thru the tears of laughing my ass off)
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04-04-2004, 01:33 PM
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#48
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Wishin' for fishin'
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Brockton
Posts: 1,651
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Quote:
Originally posted by bloocrab
Ricky......just mention S-B at the drive thru window....and I'll give all the 7 minute burgers. I work at the one with the big Burger King sign....brick faced building with windows on 3 sides.
If anyone needs hair-nets, let me know. They can be used in some interesting situations, not rated for PG sites though.
...please, let's get back on topic.
Striprman,...when you put a chunk of herring on the hook with the live herring..doesn't it wear him down, the weight of the chunk that is? ...and how do you fit both on the same hook, or do you use a trebble hook and utilize all 3 hooks?
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You are confused. The proper technique is to empale the subject bait individually. The technique I use is to impale either a whole herring (live or dead) on to the hook, or a "chunk" of herring individually. I have not tried the "combination" technique. It might work, but I believe it would "overload" the hook capacity and defeat the hook design, in the end, causing "mis-strikes" and loss of a "solid" hookup. I believe you are correct when you state that placing a "chunk" on the same hook might "wear him down". I have never seen that technique employed, possibly due to what you have observed, that the live herring bait would get "worn out".
On the other hand, impaling "chunks" on a treble hook (1 chunk impaled on each of the 3 "spears") may bring a strike, but I do not believe that it would be more effective than a single chunk impaled on 1 or 2 "spears" of the treble hook, and in fact may deplete your bait sooner than if individual "chunks" are used.
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04-04-2004, 01:37 PM
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#49
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Wishin' for fishin'
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Brockton
Posts: 1,651
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Quote:
Originally posted by redcrbbr
ok so lets say i do manage to net one and i knock off some of the scales. should i pick them up and put them back on? is there some place where i can buy replacement scales? if more than 2 scales are missing should i let it go so it can grow some more?
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I would save all the dislodged scales and use them in conjunction with any "chum" you might happen to use during the course of your fish hunting event. If the scales become contaminated with
dirt particles, do not use them.
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04-04-2004, 01:40 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
Posts: 6,588
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what about the scales that get stuck all over the steering wheel of the wifes car?
use em' or toss em'?
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04-04-2004, 01:48 PM
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#51
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Wishin' for fishin'
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Brockton
Posts: 1,651
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Quote:
Originally posted by bloocrab
You have an agent that nets all your herring for you? Are you a performer of sorts, having an agent and all....Does that allow you to net double the herring? Do you need 2 permits, or does your agent have special privelages because he's not going to use them? I've always thought about bringing some of my friends just to hang out so I could try to catch more herring. Is this against the law?
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Question 1) Not all of my herring. Various herring "runs" provide a "herring catching service" when proper permits are presented to the "agent" who will do the "catching" for you.
Question 2) No, it does not allow you to "double net" herring.
Question 3) You only need 1 permit for each "run" that may be visited during "catching days" over the course of a "season". You need an individual permit for each run that may be visited.
Question 4) You may bring your friends, but if they do not posess their own individual permits, and cannot obtain herring of their own accord, then yes, I do believe that if you captured "extra" herring for them, you would be "breaking the law".
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04-04-2004, 01:53 PM
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#52
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Wishin' for fishin'
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Brockton
Posts: 1,651
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Quote:
Originally posted by redcrbbr
they actually have herring agents??? where have i been??what do they look like? where can i buy one? are they expensive? do they come with some kind of instructions?
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Question 1) yes
Question 2) I don't know
Question 3) Usually weather beaten older men
Question 4) I'm not sure they are for sale
Question 5) They may be
Question 6) I think that if you bought one, they would be "self instructing".
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04-04-2004, 02:08 PM
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#53
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Wishin' for fishin'
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Brockton
Posts: 1,651
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Quote:
Originally posted by bloocrab
...also, how do I keep my herring hard? Should I stroke them to get the blood flowing through their muscles? Sometimes my herring fall off while I cast them, I think these are the ones that have lost their MOJO, they seem very limp. Could I rejuvenate them if I stroked them?...to make them hard again? How do you keep your herring hard Striprman, do you have your agent stroke them?....or do you use some other technique learned through your field testing?
Thank you kindly-
Bloo
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Mr. Crab.
Sorry to say, if your herring is "hard", it is probably dead, and may have been dead for a long period of time. A "hard" herring, shows signs of "rigor mortise". Any "stroking" would remove most scales and may make the herring less attractive to any fish you intend to hunt. If you have a "limp" herring, promptly remove it from the hook, place it in the live bait well and hope that it revives. You might be able to "rejuvinate your "limp herring" in the same manner you might rejuvinate a "played out" striper (allow water to flow through gills using a back and forth motion). Again "stroking your herring" may cause additional trauma. I keep my herring hard by putting them on ice after they have expired (keeps them "fresh" also). I do not believe an "agent" would "stroke" a herring, Maybe, I never asked.
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04-04-2004, 02:09 PM
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#54
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Wishin' for fishin'
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Brockton
Posts: 1,651
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Quote:
Originally posted by thefishingfreak
what about the scales that get stuck all over the steering wheel of the wifes car?
use em' or toss em'?
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You must leave them in place, they are never to be removed.
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04-04-2004, 04:39 PM
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#55
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BDTS
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Western Bass.
Posts: 13
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striprman
STOP,, PLEASE IM GETTING SICK OF READING ALL YOUR POSTS 
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Screw waders....got socks????
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