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like mac said, the craftsman ones are no good. the ones i'm talking about are the aluminum ones about 4" long. i think they are called round nose plies. They will work just to make the round bend, but if you squeeze it hard enough while making the tailwrap, you'll snap 'em. i've gone through three of em. they have the lifetime warranty, but it's still a pain to not be able to do any wiring untill you return it.
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