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I know floro makes a difference.i fish in a river near me an it has been gin clear over the past few yrs.If u don't have a light 30lb flouro leader on u may as well stay home.there's aplace by me has a big sale every yr in march an he has the triple fish in 50 yd spools very cheap i scoff em all up.50 lb is like 10 dollars which is about 7-8 bucks off.I mostly use 50 but will go to 65 if rocky and on top.I have lost alot of fish to rocks when all the mags told me i should be usin 30.Well that was a long time ago.i don't worry bout leaders or knots any longer.My 2 big fish this yr 38.10 an 36lbs I pulled back on a long line with some serious current all the while not worrying at all if my gear would hold up. I killed a 30 lber livelinen wit braid an a long Flouro leader in 50lb the whole time the fish was rapped around some rocks.my leader was a mess but i got the fish.I usta liveline wit 25 big game all the time an would hop around on the rocks like a billy goat so's not to nick the line.lost some monsters on the rocks wit it.My landings have gone up dramatically since goin to larger line.i got six over 30 this yr. All from the surf in yrs past i would have lost a few.fish what u like everyone has there one style but from the surf bigger is better .I almost never use 30 in the surf.
Kenny I got a catalog from a fly shop what are the corresponding #ers on the Orvis mirage everything is in a different rating.I guess its diameters.like .030,.027,.025.I think they are 80,60 an 52 lb tests respectively.but not sure.If U like it i'll try it.An I hate tryin new things really.But thats how we get better its the little things now.
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