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Old 03-25-2005, 11:15 PM   #1
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If I wanted to drive from Bahstahn to LA, I could do it safely and semi-comfortably in a $13,000 Toyota Corolla.

But if I can afford a $35,000 Lexus ES 300 and want to do it in that, why not? It doesn't make me any better as a driver, but it makes the trip more enjoyable.
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Old 03-25-2005, 11:25 PM   #2
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I've made chip beef on toast in a 300 dollar bourgeat copper pan.

You know what?

It was average but I had a hell of a time doing it. Everything is realative...

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Old 03-26-2005, 12:10 AM   #3
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I understand Flap's point that choosing to purchase any of the Aquaskinz products goes way beyond "need". He is right. He is also correct that being "catalog man" will not catch you fish.

If we were to all tell the truth, we all pass need during our first season fishing. Do we need custom rods, high end reels, the best quality plugs....nope, nope and absolutely not. This thread seems to be about how we each choose to "enjoy" the sport. Yes, I can enjoy fishing without my Lamiglass, Stradic, Power Pro, Habs, etc. etc. etc. I can catch a lot of fish with an ugly stick, a penn, and a rubber shad. I can catch plenty of big fish with bait and an even cheaper outfit.

However, I have felt the excitement of feeling the "swoosh" of a tail going by my plug because I throw good quality tackle. I work hard and choose to go beyond "need" in most areas of my life. I am not ashamed to say that I deserve nice things. I deserve to be comfortable. Mike P's Automobile analogy is right on. Choosing Aquaskinz products is a choice of comfort. My thought is what's wrong with that.

I live in Hull and do a lot of fishing right here in rocky spaces that are "hairy". Using Aquaskinz products takes a bit of my worries away so I can concentrate on the safety of my A$$ not the safety of my gear. I also find some added confidence when I know my gear is up to any task I choose to undertake. any fisherman worth his salt will tell you that confidence breeds sucess in the suds.

Do I sound like a salesman yet...Yeah, I do a bit of marketing for Aquaskinz and am definately jaded. However,those who know me know that My name does not get behind anything I would not own myself and the single row bag is already my favorite of the Aquaskinz line. The reason it is my favorite is that I heard all of the feedback from the last two years that created this bag. This bag was designed to meet the requests of many right on this board. I am proud that Kadir listened to the comments and feedback given to him when designing this bag.

You can compare and argue quality of a Surfcaster Bag vs and Aquaskinz bag. They are both good products in the same price range. I think the Aquaskinz bags have a few bonus mfeatures that make them better but forget that for a minute. What I think should sway the potential customers on this board is the fact that Kadir and others in the company are right here and in other places on a regular. When you have a problem we are here to adress it. Aquaskinz products are designed by fishermen for fishermen and the single row bag proves this statement to be true. Isn't that the type of company you want to be dealing with. It is for me, that is why I got involved.

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Old 03-26-2005, 07:04 AM   #4
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Patrick your a wise man. Thanks for acknowledging my point. That is all I was inferring. It was not a personal attack on anybody, just a point of view. Thanks again. Bassmaster go back to sleep, you got 29 days to go then you may come out.

Why even try.........
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Old 03-26-2005, 09:08 AM   #5
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Steve,

I think everyone understood your point and no one took it as a personal attack. The fact that you made it seem as though the users of AquaSkinz belonged to a click or were about making a fashion statement is what I question.

It is akin to saying that people who use high end Shimano, Daiwa, Lami, Loomis, Whaler, Mako etc. belonging to the same.....not exactly accurate.

Both Ditch and Patrick made great points and are valid. The fact that a certain demographic needs this type of product and another doesn't but chooses to use it shouldn't be a point of contention by you or anyone else.

Plus, you question price, I understand you may not be familiar with manufacturing,the costs of raw goods and the overall process. There are multiple factors that affect the overall price of any item. The better the materials and process, the more it is going to cost, period. I always say, don't just look at the surface of something and make an assumption, delve down to the core of it and make an educated comment.

Also, whether you know someone personally or not, it is not appropriate to tell someone to go back to sleep and come out in 29 days...whether it was in joking or not.

As I said, everyone has a right to his or her opinion, don't just make a blanket statement, know something about what your saying before you say it.

If you were to ask me why my products cost a little more than say a Canyon or a Surfcaster, I would be able to explain it to you and you would have a better understanding.

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Old 03-26-2005, 09:39 AM   #6
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Steve,
The fact that you made it seem as though the users of AquaSkinz belonged to a click or were about making a fashion statement is what I question.
To just set the record straight. I really believe the best feature of my Rampage splash top is the color. Gray goes with practically everything

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Old 03-26-2005, 09:46 AM   #7
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Hey Flap,

Let's take a drive down to the South Fork of Long Island next November.

We'll hit a place called "M."
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Old 03-26-2005, 11:21 AM   #8
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Patrick your a wise man. Thanks for acknowledging my point. That is all I was inferring. It was not a personal attack on anybody, just a point of view. Thanks again. Bassmaster go back to sleep, you got 29 days to go then you may come out.
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Old 03-26-2005, 12:37 PM   #9
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We should all remember that if the only people who bought a high end product were the ones who really needed it to fufill it's function there would be very few made and they would be even more expensive.
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Old 03-26-2005, 08:12 PM   #10
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Kadir, first of all, I have known BASSMASTER for going on 13 years now. He and I know and most of the others on this board know it was a joke so you are totally out of line there. I didn't see your name on the moderators list. And don't tell me what is appropriate if YOU don't know the background.

Now that said, I do understand manufacturing and cost, having a number of friends in that line of business, and yes please explain to me "the cost" ? If there is a mistake on my part I would like to know.

And in closing I have been in the game a long, long time I have seen fads, trends and must haves come and go so I don't need to be preached to and it's not a "blanket statement". (Like 200.00 plus for pliers from VanStal and others) I have always been blunt and always say what I feel and probably will not change after 50 years of doing so. My horoscope says I always get off on the wrong foot with people. I admit and bow to it's understanding of my personality but what you see and what you hear from me is what you get.

Once again sorry if I criticized and/or questioned the price of your products but I have an opinion and I stated it and will not retract it. I wish you continued success with your products they are just not for me.

Why even try.........
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