OK, there are issues with every industry.
I am only involved in fish farming in that I sell fish, farmed and wild. I happen to know a lot about the industry. As I said earlier, I travel around the USA & world sourcing and selling wild & farmed fish. I have no bias towards fish farming in particular, personally I would rather sell (and eat) wild fish all day long. However, FlyRod, you have no idea what you are talking about.
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Originally Posted by Fly Rod
Have you ever eaten farm raised fresh water cat fish????  Compared to a saltwater catfish!!!!  |
Yes, but what is the point
They are completely two different species of fish. Ocean catfish, AKA Wolf Fish, AKA Lup Du Mer, AKA Anarhichas lupus, is one of the best eating fish in the atlantic. Freshwater catfish, AKA channel cat, AKA Ictalurus punctatus, is pretty nasty, IMO. Farmed is more mild than wild. But unless you were raised on it, they are both prety nasty. I sell a ton of farm raised channel cat. There is really no comerical channel cat industry, outside of some localized stuff around the mississippi river valley.
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Originally Posted by Fly Rod
And the orange color of king salamon is natural, not injected like farmed raised which is a grayish color and then a orange dye is injected!!!
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WRONG!!!
In the feed of salmon is a chemical called astaxanthin. This is the
exact same chemical in shrimp's shells that makes them pink or lobster shellls that makes them orange. It is
not injected into the fish. They eat it just like they would be eating shrimp in the wild. Does it matter that it was manufactured instead of natural? Not to me. It is certainly not "dye."
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Originally Posted by Fly Rod
When I used the word "chemical", the dye, growth hormones and a dozen types of anti biortics are given these fish and yet they still get disease!!!!
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So we addressed the "dye", they are not given growth hormones [as far as I know, if I am wrong, please show me some proof], and they
are given antibiotics - Aren't you?
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Originally Posted by Fly Rod
I understand your drift about farming native to the area fish, but the problem of these fish passing on disease to wild fish in the area would be a big problem to the wild fish, like a pestilential epidemic disease "plague" !!!!  |
The main problem with escapees in not introduction of a non-native specie, it is pollution of local genetics. If you farm raise a redfish, you will be buying your smolt from a breeder? (not sure of the industry term) that has bred those fish to be fast growing, high yielding fish, through selective breeding. This fish then escapes and breeeds with wild fish, and "pollutes" the local gentics. This is bad. They have created? genetically engineered fish, but it is not approved to use them (yet), and I am upposed to farming genetically engineered "frakenfish."
They do get disseases every now and then, and sometimes it is serious and the fish need to be killed, but I don't think that this has been a big problem spreading to wild populations. I am not sure, though. I will ask some guys that would know.
Flyrod, do you feel the same about the other types of farm raised seafood we eat? Shrimp, scallops, clams, oysters, tilapia, red drum, black drum, etc...??? Shrimp is the most farmed of all. It is almost impossible to get wild shrimp these days. It is also hard to get GOOD farmed shrimp these days. Most of whats at the markets & restaurants is overtreated, chinese, farm raised white shrimp
But give me a good untreated farm raised equadorian black tiger any day
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Originally Posted by outfished
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I thiink I have said enough, but I will end on this. The health benefeits of eating fish so highly outweigh any of the detriments of fish farming (other than the fishmeal, but like I said, I think that is very short term), that we should encourage all attempts to bring this highly nutrtious source of protien to our nations consumers, and get them off beef, chix, and pork.
-Zac
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