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MakoMike · 06-23-2005, 06:08 AM

Eben,
How did the shad thing work out on Tuesday night?

RIROCKHOUND · 06-23-2005, 07:37 AM

E...
Maybe hooked in the side of the gill plate or something?
I straightened a hook on a small fish a few times when they were hooked a bit foul in that bony area (got one in so I know where they were hooked, but only cause they were fouled with both hooks......) they turn sideways and still have their head somewhat turned a 12 into a 20+ by feel..

who knows maybe it was a BFT

Or... Maybe them glass blowing meathooks of yours are too big for that sweet little reel we talked about

OR you hooked a moose and the fish gods frowned... happened to me a few times this year with decent/good fish....
either way, at least Big girls like that color.. and I have one

Makes a good argument for one big 4/0 instead of 2/0... either way it may have straightened....

BTW I'll tell ya the story but almost had access, but it went away before I knew about it

"PIEMMA WROTE: I believe everyone on this site has absolutely lost it. Why not go back to the old Squidders with 50 pound dacron"
Paul dont tempt me; I used that as a jig stick 2 years ago...

Nebe · 06-23-2005, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakoMike

Eben,
How did the shad thing work out on Tuesday night?

tried it for an hour-- caught a shad right away, let her swim off the beach adn i waited.. and waited..... and waited..... and waited..... It felt too much like chunking so i left to try one of my honeyholes on the drop.

If I was on a boat, i would be into doing the shad thing, but from shore its too much work. plus i could only lob it about 12 feet...

I dont think i will try it agian.

at least i tried it.

MakoMike · 06-23-2005, 10:38 AM

Eben,
So does that mean that I caught more bass on Tuesday than you and TT put together?

DZ · 06-23-2005, 11:53 AM

Eben,
They haven't made a treble yet that won't straighten under certain conditions. This typically happens because of the tourque generated when trebles tend to work against each other as your cow thrashes around and/or starts to rub her head in the rockweed jungle. The treble hook dilemma is the exact reason that Pichney and Coleman developed the stubby needle for use on Block. A Strong single hook will not straighten. A very bright idea that drastically cut down the amount of lost cows due to treble failure.

DZ

Saltheart · 06-23-2005, 12:21 PM

One hook works against the other. Myn guess is the plug would handle large fish better if the middle trebble were removed. I think it would be even better if the middle on ewere removed and the tail hook switched to a single long shank hook.

DZ · 06-23-2005, 01:35 PM

Plug,
Thanks for the comment.
I said "strong" single hook - I learned my lesson with those "forged" mustads as well. In my opinion they are not very dependable. We used them on our rigged eels but not for long. If you have to fish a single hook by all means avoid forged (pressed shank) models .

We went to Eagle Claw stainless 90SS and stopped the staightening problem. If you have a good set and the hook point penetrates it's hard to straighten a "strong" single hook. I guess the key word here is strong. It's a relative term.

DZ

Skitterpop · 06-23-2005, 02:04 PM

6X Gladiators VMC

Sorry for your loss Eben,
Mike

vineyardblues · 06-23-2005, 02:07 PM

Ok, I see this alot,,, fisherman who do not fish the correct way,

When you hook up DO NOT fight the fish with your rod tip up, when you do it's your line, drag, and hooks against the fish. USE your ROD!!!!!!!!!
Always Always Always pull from the left side or right side and use your Rod .

You may think I am nuts but it's what the Big Man told me. And it's the only way to land a large fish, Also a prayer helps

I hope this helps
VB

Plug · 06-23-2005, 02:39 PM

Just to clarify I deleted the post Dennis is referring to because I couldn't get the image to post.

Here's the jig, 6/0 forged Mustad. BTW it was a "Jig-Rigged" eel. The jig was in the roof of the fishes mouth. It fell out when I lifted the fish out of the water. As Dennis said it wasn't a good hook set. Roof of the mouth doesn't allow the hook to bury to the bend. It was a nice fish (24#) but certainly no tackle-busting leviathin.

Never used the 90SS Dennis, are they jig hooks? If so have to give them a shot. I know the Eagle Claw cadmium jig hooks are poop, worse even.

DZ · 06-23-2005, 02:49 PM

Plug,
They're not a jig hook. Offset stainless beak type. We use them on rigged eelbobs that we leave in brine solution.
We did at one time pour jig heads with them - we had to insert some brass sinker eyes into the hook eye and then make them fit the jig mold. Pain in the ass - but those jigs didn't straighten. Might be worth a shot if you're fishing jigs.

DZ

Plug · 06-23-2005, 03:04 PM

I've seen the sinker eye thing done. I've also considered bobs. I like the idea of a swinging hook. But down here in this fast moving water just a straight jig has always been very effective and is about all we've ever used. That and squids. I'll have to incorporate some more Yankee methods.