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Old 06-26-2005, 07:57 PM   #1
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If you think the Guard and Reserves are "barely trained", you don't know your ass from third base
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Old 06-26-2005, 08:15 PM   #2
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mike- short boot camp and 2 weeks a year is enough training? maybe i don't know my arse from 3rd base.

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Old 06-26-2005, 08:23 PM   #3
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Eben...You dont think the terrosists started this and in turn led us to Iraq ? Why do you think we are there ? Oh for oil???

I'm going where I'm going...
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Old 06-26-2005, 10:40 PM   #4
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Eben...You dont think the terrosists started this and in turn led us to Iraq ? Why do you think we are there ?
I'm really fighting the urge to rip into this one

Regarding the training of the Guard.

I'd wager the Guard and Reserves are trained pretty damn well, but are they trained for the right mission? Clearly this has let to problems at Abu Grahib...

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Old 06-26-2005, 10:46 PM   #5
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I'm really fighting the urge to rip into this one

Regarding the training of the Guard.

I'd wager the Guard and Reserves are trained pretty damn well, but are they trained for the right mission? Clearly this has let to problems at Abu Grahib...

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dude your having problems with your abu too???? damn
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Old 06-27-2005, 07:08 AM   #6
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Man, that entire Abu Grahib thing is so 2 years ago. I vote that we chop of some Iraqi heads. Those people will understand that !

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Old 06-29-2005, 05:43 AM   #7
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Angry a bigger mouse trap needed

....they have plenty of empty desert,,,,so set up a huge sand bag fortess way out in the middle->with our very best snipers...sitting there just waiting with a mass grave and bulldozers near by...and call it USA base.... let the dummies come in one by one...shootem all and bury them daily....

since they want to use cars full of explosives and suicide drivers...take all the cars away....every single dammned one of them....

march all of the women and children out of every city and set up tent cities
way out in the middle of no -where with absolutely NO men allowed.

next take away all sources of food and water and electricity.

its our country to RUN...not theirs temporarilly....and so for now...screw democracy in IRAQ... we might as well RUN it our way and not allow them to run it their way.
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Old 06-29-2005, 08:35 AM   #8
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I vote that we chop of some Iraqi heads. Those people will understand that !
Hmmm, make more matyrs.
Good thinking!
There certainly isn't enough insurgents is there?

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Eben...You dont think the terrosists started this and in turn led us to Iraq ? Why do you think we are there ? Oh for oil???
Correct me if i am wrong, but there was never a link to alqueda in Iraq. why are we not chasing osama??? It is all a grand diversion for profeteering. The only way this is benefiting us in relation to terrorism is that its drawing them there and not here.
Sure, oil has something to do with it.. oh, not cheap oil.... really really expensive oil. Only a small group are making $ off of it, and WE are suffering for it... especially me, but thats another story.....
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Eben...You dont think the terrosists started this and in turn led us to Iraq ? Why do you think we are there ? Oh for oil???
What revisionism! I thought we were looking for WMDs? What terrorists? There has never been ANY link btw Assama and 9/11. Bush wanted to go to war to finish something his father didn't. He morphed the pursuit of Al Qaeda into a war w/Saddam. Helen Thomas, who has been a white house correspondent as long as anyone has said that Bush was the only president she has covered who wanted to go to war - sad. But hey, don't worry, according to Cheney the insurgency is in its "last throes".
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Bush wanted to go to war to finish something his father didn't. He morphed the pursuit of Al Qaeda into a war w/Saddam.
Oh yeah, remove the dude the US gov put in power.
Not a single "replaced" gov put in power by the US has survived.

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But hey, don't worry, according to Cheney the insurgency is in its "last throes".
"What about all those people pouring over the borders INTO Iraq Mr. Cheney?"
Oh thats just a bunch of folks.

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Old 06-29-2005, 08:53 AM   #12
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The reserve component is more than 50% of th emilitary at 10% of the price of the active force. Need to spend teh defense money for expensive weapons system development to keep the congressional pork barrels full....

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Just my two cents

Disregarding the reasons or lack thereof, for going to war.

There has never been a war in recent history that we have won and where we have not had to leave substantial amounts of troops behind to restore the damage. We still have troops in Germany and Japan fifty yeasr after we defeated them. And right after the surrenders things weren't much different in Japan and Germany than they are in Iraq right now. But no one wants to point out that piece of history.

We still have troops in Korea almost fifty years after that war. The only place we don't have troops is Vietnam, and that's only because we lost that war.

IMHO short attention span is waay to generous for the American Public's patience with any kind of long term project.

Secondy, think about this. All of the Deocrats and some of the Republican are screaming that Iraq's borders are "porous" and there are thousands of islamic militants coming in every day to fight us. If they are right, then I'm really glad that we are fighting them over there and not in NY and Boston!

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Name a single country we helped overthrow in the past 25 years that has stuck together.

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