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08-15-2005, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MakoMike
Eben,
We have thos tar balls on the south shore of LI as well, they come from ships not the oil rigs. Looks at what's happeneing with the cape wind farm proposal and the similar Long Isalnd proposal, the NIMBYs are winning. I would love more solar and wind power, but what does that have to do with just finding out how much oil we have in the ground?
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whats a NIMBY? the problem with finding out how much oil is under georges bank is simple... what if there is oil there???? they will trash the place..
we need to rid ourselves of oil all together. 
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08-15-2005, 10:31 AM
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...and in person!
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NIMBY = Not In My Back Yard
I would love to see the look on the folks against the windmills when the first stationary drilling rig goes in for "exploratory purposes"
They need a proctologist to do some exploratory drilling in their head!!
Last edited by MikeTLive; 08-15-2005 at 10:32 AM..
Reason: clarification
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08-15-2005, 11:59 AM
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Eben,
NIMBY=not in my back yard. I don't disagree about getting completely away from oil, but its going to take a long time, hell we still burn coal! And during that long transition we need some sources that the Emeers don't control.
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08-15-2005, 09:52 PM
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years ago
drilling technology was limmited to drilling straight down....
now however with flexible drill steel - you can have a rig on land
and you can do exploratory drilling in the ocean as the drill can now
go in a curve, which changes everything.
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08-16-2005, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Raven
drilling technology was limmited to drilling straight down....
now however with flexible drill steel - you can have a rig on land
and you can do exploratory drilling in the ocean as the drill can now
go in a curve, which changes everything.
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I don't think they would drill sideways 90 miles instead of down 2-5 ...
I would rather see emphasis placed on solar, wind (even if off Nantucket), and yes, in the words of our wordsmith President, Nucular Power.
But while we are on the crappy sides of energy engineering, why can't we get E85 Ethanol in New England? There are many Flex Fuel vehicles out now that will run that and where available, it is 1.85 per gallon 
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08-16-2005, 08:00 AM
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agreed....
posted by Johnr: I would rather see emphasis placed on solar, wind (even if off Nantucket), and yes, in the words of our wordsmith President, Nucular
Power.
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to further that discussion.............
was reading : The U.S. nuclear-power industry has been stagnant for three decades; the last successfully completed reactor order was made back in the early 1970s. The 1979 Three Mile Island accident, and the far worse 1986 Chernobyl catastrophe, helped stop the industry in its tracks. Public confidence plunged; regulatory pressures, political opposition, and costs surged.
And by the 1990s, fossil fuels were cheap enough that nuclear power--"even with more-efficient designs"--wasn't worth pursuing.
but not any more........
build new plants, which would benefit from three decades' worth of technology advances in materials, sensors, and control software? Today's 104 operating U.S. nuclear power plants, after all, reflect the designs of the 1960s and the technologies of the 1970s.
final note:
that recent meltdown of our power system due to computer errors reflects the problem also. crappy technology that can be totally and completely re-done
same as all of the space shuttle designs.
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08-16-2005, 08:07 AM
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