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Old 09-01-2005, 08:38 AM   #1
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Then explain to us how any of these ideas are not smart.......
they may be smart, but they are reckless. far more reckless than bush is now.

i would rather have a president in office that shows all countries respect and respect of thier beliefs.

propigating hate of others only creates more hate twards us.

look up fascism. we are getting closer and closer everyday to a fascist state.
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Old 09-01-2005, 08:45 AM   #2
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they may be smart, but they are reckless.
I believe that is a contridiction by definition......because something that is reckless cannot be too smart. So what is it in your opinion -- reckless OR smart?

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Old 09-01-2005, 09:59 AM   #3
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I would love to hear that speech.

I think other here prefer that we turn national security over to the United Nations. And keep pouring our tax dollars down those 3 world hell holes.

Keep lines wet and tight in the pacific
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Old 09-01-2005, 10:04 AM   #4
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They just sit there doing npthing about anything and complain about the world.
Agreed....so let's organize a nationwide march on Washington and demand the administration do something about the MASSIVE energy crisis in our country. Our government is selling us all down the tubes right now, simply in order to pad their own personal wallets.

Wake up America.......we are in serious trouble....here's how it works....prices go up faster then wages = more and more people slipping into poverty.....the 1% who control 99% of the wealth will be the only one's standing, becausde they are the one;'s making the rules (government)......average US house price ~ $400k.........gas @ $3/gal......milk over $2 a gallon.......have your earnings gone up over 20% annually? If not, you are one of the one's slipping behind, and eventually your nose will be under water too.

More proof: diners are raising their prices of food because they have higher fuel costs now......truckers have raised prices also......so have airlines......grocery stores, etc......since energy is a core necessity, fluctuations in it effect EVEY other industry.

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Agreed....so let's organize a nationwide march on Washington and demand the administration do something about the MASSIVE energy crisis in our country. Our government is selling us all down the tubes right now, simply in order to pad their own personal wallets.
Now you're talking!
I wouldn't be suprized is it came to that.

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So what is it in your opinion -- reckless OR smart?

reckless... we would only create chaos world wide which would only fuel our enemys hatred for us.

ideally it is smart if you only look at the results here. world wide... very very reckless.

besides bush pretty much said FU to the world by invading Iraq after the UN said no way... if you ask em the UN was on the right track. Anyway, look at the results of bushs actions... most of the world hates us, and most americans hate him. reckless leadership is bad leadership.
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reckless... we would only create chaos world wide which would only fuel our enemys hatred for us.

ideally it is smart if you only look at the results here. world wide... very very reckless.

besides bush pretty much said FU to the world by invading Iraq after the UN said no way... if you ask em the UN was on the right track. Anyway, look at the results of bushs actions... most of the world hates us, and most americans hate him. reckless leadership is bad leadership.
Wrong on a few levels my friend.
1. Our enemies don't need any more fuel...no matter what we do they are going to try to kill us. You seem to think that if we act nice to them that some day they are going to like us. WRONG.
2. I am not a Bush Administration fan, but the UN screwed up the entire Iraq aituation. They had over 19 times told Iraq to relinquish their weapons and nuclear arsenal, and 19 times the UN was told to go scratch by Iraq. The US intelligence community had relevant information that these resources were being used to support terrorism against the US. And in your opinion the UN was on the right track? WRONG.

Remember, the UN has absolutely NO recourse to force any nation into abiding to any of it's resolutions.....they have no military force.....behind closed doors I am sure the UN was very happy the US finally decided to go in and spank Iraq for them.

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wrong??/? maybe. But does it justify fabricateing false intellegence to trick the american people???? i dont think so.
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fabricateing false intellegence
Quite an accusation....now prove it.....

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downing street memmos.
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Quite an accusation....now prove it.....
Yeah! I gotta hear this one!

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Talking all that was extra

because as soon as our fly over jets were fired apon....flying over IRAQ
(and this was way before the war began...with all the shock and awe)
we had the right to go back in...

besides they never complied to our rules.... so that was the chocolate cake

thinking they had wmd's was merely the icing ...
and sadamy salamy was the birthday candle.
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Old 09-04-2005, 09:34 AM   #13
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I would just like to have a PRES that would stop disarming us so we can protect ourselves from people like in New Orleans!
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