Oct. OTW

[kippy]

I'm still waiting for my september issue.. ..

[BigFish]

So #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&..."burn the spots as long as they are not your own"..."and he has not fished them in years"....."apply what he has written and go there to catch a dream fish???" If there were dream fish there why is it your buddy does not fish there????? I recall not too long ago a certain someones spots got burned in a similar way and it was an issue for him.....well I guess take care of number 1 and screw everyone else is the moral of this story!!!

You also were ripping people for helping and being generous with spots and information.....when it affected you it was a problem but since this does not...then its alright! Too funny!

The point is write about a general location as most of the writers do, but don't draw a detailed map, list parking spaces, give GPS co-ordinates......give the general area and let the dang fisherman find their own way....else how are they supposed to improve, be good at what they are doing and be the kind of fisherman you guys are always whining about???

Example.....Napatree....its a great spot to fish...go there and try your luck!

[bassmaster]

send them to the cape got spare

[beachwalker]

you're all a bunch of poofters



seriously, I think the only guys upset should be the guys who call that area home and/or fish it "regularly".

All you dissenters CANCEL YOUR SUBSCRIPTION RIGHT NOW !

[fishaholic18]

Originally Posted by beachwalker

seriously, I think the only guys upset should be the guys who call that area home and/or fish it "regularly".

I resectfully disagree with that.
We all must stick together and have each others back.

[SBASS1]

Looks like we have another Tim Coleman on our hands. So I guess there will be two people bannished to Napatree.

[afterhours]

right on the money fa18

[JohnR]

I'm a little short on time so I can't address this the way I want to.

I have not read the article yet so I can't go into detail on that but I can assume a few things from this post. Sounds like Steve went pretty detailed on spots, that is a shame, his spots or someone else's, its a shame. Someone is going to lose access and someone is going to suffer.

But while you are trashing Steve McKenna now, I guess you need to trash everyone else that talks spots too. So let's all throw Joe Lyons and Dave Pickering under the bus, Canalman, Powers, Flaptail, looks like Zeno has some spot embers coming soon, ooops Charlie Soares has diarrhea of the mouth lately, #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& did a few in 5-6 years ago, Daignault - the original mass torch, wrote a book and made $$ by coopting others to burn THEIR spots, Tim Coleman (Sbass - TC is one of the good guys), Bassmaster, Mike P, et all.

Now, when you are done, go blame the Bait and Tackle shops too. I think Captain Don's has sent more people to Q in the past few years than any other source. Ballstons - what shop does not say "Balstons"????

Now that we are done crying, maybe we should address the root of the problem? PEOPLE WANT SPOTS!!! New people, old people, where are the fish at?? This is an over-generalization but you know what makes profit for fishing maggies? Boat and boat / fishing related advertisements, you know what makes people buy the maggies so they can sell the add space? SPOTS!!!!!!

I have talked to a few people (probably not who you think) that write articles for our two heroic local SW periodicals. There are more and more encouraged to write about SPOTS. Sure, give me a How-To, but be sure to add the where-to. SPOTS SELL! Sells magazines, sells books, sells website traffic. SPOTS SELL!!!!

People follow trucks to see where they are fishing because of SPOTS. It's all about SPOTS. Some of the nicest people turn into the shrewdest scum beacause of SPOTS.

What is the negative ramification of all this spot talk? ACCESS IS FOREVER LOST!!!! When a bunch of people park at X and leave trash, make noise, talk loudly at 3 in the morning, we put undue pressure on spots. It is only worse when it is on OTW or NEF just in time for the Friday crowd. And even some of the "smart sticks" from here make more noise than a heard of holsteins with their bells on. Trash, people, noise, disrespect - these are all eroding at our access. But it gets worse when things are concentrated because of an article in the maggie, or a thread on the 'Net.

You want to do something about it? Form a Coalition to stop spot diarrhea of the mouth. Tell the maggies to stop talking spots and encouraging, or practically demanding spot info in the articles. It is the CULTURE that needs to change.

But don't be a complete hypocrate and bash when odds are you have sucked up to people for spots or waited with foaming mouth for NEF or OTW to hit your mailbox and make that magical flight up into the library. Do something about the root of the problem and tell Bourque and Harvey to be far less descriptive on publishing specific locales. Or better yet, invite Gene and Zach to a lot of these spots when the floodgates open.

[beachwalker]

Originally Posted by fishaholic18

I resectfully disagree with that.
We all must stick together and have each others back.

but if one doesn't fish it regulary than whats the gripe ?

I understand what everyone means about not burning spots. That's not right and OTW burned a spot. So, for sure, that sucks but if you only go there one or so times a year than whats the problem. IF YOU have special spots to protect than I most certainly agree, one has to work to communicate and protect the privacy.

Still Bassmaster is a puffter

[eelman]

Originally Posted by BigFish

So #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&..."burn the spots as long as they are not your own"..."and he has not fished them in years"....."apply what he has written and go there to catch a dream fish???" If there were dream fish there why is it your buddy does not fish there????? I recall not too long ago a certain someones spots got burned in a similar way and it was an issue for him.....well I guess take care of number 1 and screw everyone else is the moral of this story!!!

You also were ripping people for helping and being generous with spots and information.....when it affected you it was a problem but since this does not...then its alright! Too funny!

The point is write about a general location as most of the writers do, but don't draw a detailed map, list parking spaces, give GPS co-ordinates......give the general area and let the dang fisherman find their own way....else how are they supposed to improve, be good at what they are doing and be the kind of fisherman you guys are always whining about???

Example.....Napatree....its a great spot to fish...go there and try your luck!

spots I fish are private, hopefully that answers your question

[ThrowingTimber]

Steve, has always been helpful the few times I stop into the shop. I havent read the article, I dont subscribe. But this seems like an issue worth reading, even if its for sng's