Hey Zeno

[Flaptail]

Originally Posted by Karl F

Why?
Well, oh mature one, this, from another thread regarding this well worn subject...



I would have shortened it, but did not want to be accused of editing "your" comment.

But honest to god, that is the only reason, why I thought there might be something there, other than that, I know that magazines and writers, will sell us down the river................................

I will hush my juvenile mouth now, and be done with this... and let you mature folk handle this, while I grow up

Flapper... sometimes I wonder 'bout ya

Wonder all you want but read this the right way which you haven't. I had a feeling they would, they didn't, they don't have to I thought they should have addressed it somehow but playing the Devil's advocate, they don't have to and that's the point I am trying to make. OTW isn't a club or an organization it's a business. In the first paragraph of my original post I tried to explain that to you all IMHO. Was it that hard to see that? I would have put something in but I don't run the mag and as far as they are concerned they don't owe anybody anything and that's what I stated. I tried to convey this from there point of view in the last post. Sell you down the river Karl? That I don't understand. What, in your opinion should a magazine publish for articles? Of course the object of having the magazine is to make money. Would you go through all the effort not to. It's a business for Christ sake. Peoples livelihoods depend on it's sales. It's not my business or yours nor do you have, or I have any say in it. They say it's your magazine but that doesn't mean it litterally is, it covers your fishing that's all. I apologize for the grow up stuff but man all this internet chatter is like a bunch of teenage girls at lunch. More people have learned of this from these sites than the mag article itself. I would have addressed it but the cold hard facts are that they don't have to and I am not part of the management just a sorry assed writer who rues the day he ever started and wishes to God the internet was never invented. This is my last post. I cannot take the crap anymore. I think OTW is a great publication, one that is sorely needed in the Northeast. SWS is coming back around as well and that's a good thing too. You are all a bunch of good guys/gals but this is too stressful for me. Dammed if you do dammed if you don't. See you round some time, maybe.

[RIJIMMY]

No agenda Zeno, just my first response to Nebes post. I did not read it 5 times, just once quickly. If everyone on the net checked their facts before posting the net would be void of any content. What you are writing worked for most, just did not do it for me. Everyone views things with bias and opinions, I am a cynical bastard and view most things like that. I clued into the needle items and may have missed your point.
No hard feelings, just my opinion.

Heres a little story for ya, besides fishing my passion is jazz. I have been playing for over 25 years, one day I was was working on a complicated jazz melody, I literally spent 5 hours playing a 2 second piece over and over. When I finally had it down, I asked my wife to listen, she did and looked at me and nodded. When she walked away I absent mindedly strummed a few chords , basic beginner guitar stuff. She turns around and says "Now that sounds good!" I wanted to puke.
The moral is, some people get it, some dont, dont worry about it.

[Nebe]

Why is everyone so grumpy???

[Joe]

I can't stand you Nebe.....
Too bad Flap quit - I was just starting to like him.
Zeno - I just read your story. Not bad at all - nice pix too.

[JoeP]

I thought Zeno's article was an all around great summary of fishing MTK - and even "rock-fishing" in general. If I ever go to MTK I'll read it again.

Another reason I disagree about tossing (or torching in Eben's case ) old magazines. You never know when you may want to reference an old article. Like keeping an archive of fishing info...

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Joe

I can't stand you Nebe.....

Foodcat loves me

[tattoobob]

I read the article this morning and got alot out of it I liked the smile on the guys face as he puts away a 30 pounder. who wants to go this weekend?
I also liked the warning about getting mugged for your spot.

[kippy]

It was a great article but I don't think I would enjoy being mugged like that. I bet BM would love fishing in close quarters with the New Yawkers..