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12-20-2005, 09:38 AM
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Location: Stratford, CT
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The two sources at the beginning of this thread cited a NY Times article by a reporter who has written a book. The reporter admitted to holding the article for one year to be printed at the time his book is released. That is IMO, questionable and self serving.
This same article was referred to by Senators as part of the reason they were voting against the Patriot Act.
If you can't trust the source how can you trust those who refer to it? These Senators complain about loosing civil liberties. Who has lost them? What, if anything, have they lost? I don't mind standing in a longer line at the airport. I think the increased screening is worth the wait.
Ultimately, the question is do we feel safer as a result of having the Patriot Act?
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12-20-2005, 10:15 AM
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Location: Seekonk
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So when i go to the airport and they search my luggage and frisk me in public without my permission arent my civil rights being violated? I meen they never called and went to court to get a warrant for that right? Oh wait maybe they do that becuase its in the best interest of our safety and natianal security. Imagine that, someone trying to protect me, how dare they do that! 
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12-20-2005, 10:26 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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Apples and Oranges Skippy;
In the airport it is Posted what you can and can't do and it is Policy as to what is going to happen; dont like it you dont have to travel; at least you KNOW the policy and KNOW you are being frisked searched... what they were doing is the same thing, except they searched your luggage and frisked you without you knowing.....
There was a good point ranged.. out of 4000 warrants asked for 4 (four) were denied; so why did they bother to do it the WRONG way against the LAW?
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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12-20-2005, 10:46 AM
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You guys seem to be mixing a lot of issues...this isn't that complicated.
-spence
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12-20-2005, 10:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
You guys seem to be mixing a lot of issues...this isn't that complicated.
-spence
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Your right its not...When will you get it 
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12-20-2005, 10:59 AM
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Oh and TDF sould feel special. He just just joined a very exclusive club with the likes of Nebe and Spence. Its called the Skip N got pissed,lost his cool and dropped some nasty words on me club.  anyone else wanna join? 
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12-20-2005, 11:07 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip N
Oh and TDF sould feel special. He just just joined a very exclusive club with the likes of Nebe and Spence. Its called the Skip N got pissed,lost his cool and dropped some nasty words on me club.  anyone else wanna join? 
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I got a feeling after awhile its not going to be so exclusive.
But at least it has some quality membership.. 
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