Rigged eels & rubber eels, Slug-gos, etc. - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

eelman · 02-02-2006, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Indanite

Thank you very much Bill

When should I expect the book coauthored by you and Steve?

You could do a simple construction booklet and I bet it would sell.

Mike

Nah.I dont mind sharing what has worked for me and I am sure there are hundreds of other ways to do things that come to the same result, this stuff is just was has produced for me over the years....different strokes for different folks..........

Redsoxticket · 02-02-2006, 01:18 PM

What surf and bottom structure conditions do you use for the eels with two 1/2 sinkers in the eel's mouth ?

Also, do you use the same technigue as the rigged eel when you retrieve ?

eelman · 02-02-2006, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Redsoxticket

What surf and bottom structure conditions do you use for the eels with two 1/2 sinkers in the eel's mouth ?

Also, do you use the same technigue as the rigged eel when you retrieve ?

yikes..I am giving away my store!!

(just kiddin)

If I am fishing in water over 10 feet I may use a half ounce.( I tend to use weight more in rough water or in a current) Remember eels do sink so in water up to that height you really dont need it, I am looking to get my eels down faster in higher depths so I will use the weight to speed up the process.

As for the difference in rigged and live , its completley different, I just reel in the live one slow and let the eel do the work, every now and then a speed cahnge can produce a strike , especially when your close to the shore sometimes I will speed it up and that can trigger vicious hits right at your feet. The bass may be following that thing from the start and as soon as the fish sees the change bang! You just kind of have to feel all these things out with time and practice.

Most people make the mistake of thinking about the second cast before they finish the first! Big mistake, reel all the way to your feet, you will be amazed at the fish that will hit right in the wash...........

tlapinski · 02-02-2006, 04:43 PM

Why are the gami octopus hooks crap? Here is a pic of one of McKenna's slug-gos from last fall when we were out on Cutty. These were 7/0 or 8/0 hooks and he was using mono...

tlapinski · 02-02-2006, 04:48 PM

damn pictures.

LeCounts1099 · 02-02-2006, 05:12 PM

Tlap: It's not that Gamis are "crap" in general-- they're not! But a different hook for every different purpose/ application!

When I used Gami Octopus' w/ Live Eels, way too many flew off the hook. As #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& says they're thin- wire hooks-- not good for live Eel hook retention. Barb is quite small too. And... my PB 41 lber., partially opened my 5/0 Octopus, although I still managed to land (& release) the fish. Finally, yes, rust- out is very important for live Eeling, but less so for riggies or lures like Sluggos that don't often get swallowed like the live do. Been using Owners in recent years... but will give #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s' Mustad pattern a try! I will crush down by 50%that huge barb though, as I'm strictly a C & R guy!

Sea Dangles · 02-02-2006, 06:14 PM

I use Gami octo in 5 or 6 for eeling but I'm no expert.I hookem different than E.M. but I don't cast off eels.I have caught some decent fish and have never bent a hook,but I use a drag.Most hooks are bent because you hook into the jaw and get seperation pressure.Like Bill said a slow action rod is essential.My mentor,the Iron Man uses Gami live bait,these are $$$ but he prefers the strength and short shank.Some sharpies feed nails to their snakes to weigh them down,those slimies are hard to kill.Some times a trolling sinker can be used in line, above your leader.This is especially helpful on the backside of the cape when the water is moving sideways.

Skitterpop · 02-02-2006, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tlapinski

damn pictures.

Skitterpop · 02-02-2006, 10:03 PM

And the heavier Live Bait

Nebe · 02-02-2006, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tlapinski

Why are the gami octopus hooks crap? Here is a pic of one of McKenna's slug-gos from last fall when we were out on Cutty. These were 7/0 or 8/0 hooks and he was using mono...

your asking why they are crap?? look at your picture, the front hook is straightened!!!

Nebe · 02-02-2006, 09:17 PM

oh, disreguard taht last post. i thik toby was trying to explain why they are crappy.

tlapinski · 02-03-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe

oh, disreguard taht last post. i thik toby was trying to explain why they are crappy.

Yeah, I was only saying the octopus are in rigging slug-gos. I love the HD LB hooks! After that night from the picture, Steve swore he was switching to the LB's. I had been running LB's on the front and back of mine without any trouble.