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03-18-2006, 10:01 AM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Eben,
Let's not forget the Dannys you sell and catch fish on... there is nothing original there right? Just a Danny that you copied... just like I copied and everyone else on this site copied? Right? 
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03-18-2006, 10:06 AM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
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Y'know... I take that back... I'm not worried about copycats... plugs are plugs whether they're a totally original creation or an old stand-by named by its name or by some other name... I know what it is, if it catches I'll fish it... bottom line. Lets talk about herring runs or something now eh? It's almost spring and we can put these pissing contests to sleep until next winter.... SMILE 
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03-18-2006, 10:44 AM
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Registered User
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I agree Canalman on getting back to fishing, almost nothing being made now that hasn't ben made before. Some make something and think wow, that has got to be the first, then someone posts a pic of something made 40 years ago that looks just like it. No biggie, some know and some don't. It ain't a religion ( though it causes enough fights to be). let's get back to having fun and taking ourselves a little less seriously.
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Why even try.........
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03-18-2006, 11:07 AM
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OK.
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03-18-2006, 11:10 AM
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WTF
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaptail
I agree Canalman on getting back to fishing, almost nothing being made now that hasn't ben made before. Some make something and think wow, that has got to be the first, then someone posts a pic of something made 40 years ago that looks just like it. No biggie, some know and some don't. It ain't a religion ( though it causes enough fights to be). let's get back to having fun and taking ourselves a little less seriously.
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sounds good 
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03-18-2006, 11:14 AM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
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GROUP HUG 
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03-18-2006, 11:44 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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Herring in the runs huh Steve? 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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03-18-2006, 11:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
Herring in the runs huh Steve? 
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Yup
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03-18-2006, 04:42 PM
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" Some make something and think wow, that has got to be the first, then someone posts a pic of something made 40 years ago that looks just like it. No biggie, some know and some don't. It ain't a religion" Flaptail.
Here's my 'confession'... I will copy any and all plugs that strike my fancy. I don't know all the builders and all their styles. I am willing and eager to learn. There are some styles/groups of plugs that I can't tell apart. Thanks to guys like Flaptail, Capesams, and VinyardBlues I'm learning. My chances of selling these plagerized plugs are between zero and not. I try to give credit where credit is due. I am not insulted when someone tells me that my plug looks like so-and so's, in fact I'm flattered to have come close enough to look like something. I do a few of what I might think is original for my own use. A few. I wanna go fishing. It ain't a religion.
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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03-18-2006, 02:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Canalman
Eben,
Let's not forget the Dannys you sell and catch fish on... there is nothing original there right? Just a Danny that you copied... just like I copied and everyone else on this site copied? Right? 
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I call them dannies because they resemble the form- and as far as being copies, not really I never traced an existing blank. the lip is the same diameter as a danny lip, the tail is about 1/2 of that, and its as wide a plug as i can get out of a 2x2 ballister then divide the lenght of a 3' ballister into x amount of plugs and you get the lenght... bingo- instant danny.
AS for selling them, i will probably not spin wood for profit agian. 
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03-18-2006, 03:43 PM
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Finally
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: FL
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Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
You MAKE a profit turning wood lures?
Edit I'm not stirring anyones pot...just saw a great chance to poke some fun Eben  I haven't figured out how to make money doin this stuff yet but there sure are alot of guys who think they can nowadays 
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Keeps our heads on straight though, that's all that matters in my book. 
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03-18-2006, 05:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
You MAKE a profit turning wood lures?
Edit I'm not stirring anyones pot...just saw a great chance to poke some fun Eben  I haven't figured out how to make money doin this stuff yet but there sure are alot of guys who think they can nowadays 
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See thats funny
U are tryin to be like NIB 
that 'll cost ya one plug.
damned if ya do ....
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03-18-2006, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
You MAKE a profit turning wood lures? 
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yeah.. its not rocket science.  If you need a consultant i charge $50 an hour. 
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03-18-2006, 07:04 PM
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Canceled
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
yeah.. its not rocket science.  If you need a consultant i charge $50 an hour. 
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I'm a better consultant, I charge $100 an hour and of course your results will depend on how well you apply my recommendations, changing market conditions and the weather.
I think if someone wants to make money they need to do what Al Gags and Stetzko are doing, farm out the manufacturing as cheaply as possible and concentrate on marketing. Plug making is labor intense and who wants to work in a factory. Well some people like it, but I know I don't.
Plug designing/copying/creating is fun but production work suks 
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03-18-2006, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bluefishercat
production work suks 
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aint that the truth. 
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03-18-2006, 07:59 PM
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Guest
Join Date: May 2005
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So Who gtes credit for a Atoms 40 shaped plug with a Pikie Lip? 
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03-18-2006, 08:27 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Bob Pond and Creek Chub Bait Co. Did I get it?
C'mon guys, lighten up, it's almost time and it's supposed to be fun.
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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03-22-2006, 12:10 AM
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Canceled
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Location: vt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bluefishercat
I'm a better consultant, I charge $100 an hour and of course your results will depend on how well you apply my recommendations, changing market conditions and the weather.
I think if someone wants to make money they need to do what Al Gags and Stetzko are doing, farm out the manufacturing as cheaply as possible and concentrate on marketing. Plug making is labor intense and who wants to work in a factory. Well some people like it, but I know I don't.
Plug designing/copying/creating is fun but production work suks 
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I have been told by a guy who assembles lures for and with Gags that I am incorrect. I apologize.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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03-22-2006, 09:17 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Cumberland, RI
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Just got back to this thread...
... Hold on, let me get on this soapbox here...
So wtf is wrong with an amateur hack copying a lure to use and catch fish? If anyone is so self righteous to insinuate this is somehow unethical or otherwise, well... I guess I lost a little respect for them.
I didn't get into building to make money. I do it to pass the winter, save a few $ and make enough plugs as not to worry about losing them. I've made ~50 this year. figure an average of $15 a plug to buy them. I've at least broken even this year.
I admire those who came before me. The true inovators, but please, don't try to diminish me in any way, because I am not one of them.
And for those who choose to no-longer post here? fine. That's your decision.
ok, I'm off.
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Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement -- Keith Benning
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03-22-2006, 10:37 AM
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Registered User
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there's something wrong w/ you people 
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Sooner or later you're going to realize just as I did that there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path. - Morpheus
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