first post...something to wonder about - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Mike P · 03-24-2006, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe

no wreckage outside the walls except for a small jet turbine that wouldnt even power a private jet????

makes you wonder

other than that, i have no comment.

Most passenger jets have a small jet fuel burning engine in the rear, whose purpose is to heat the cargo compartment. It's called the "dead dog" engine, because if the flight crew forgets to turn it on, any dog riding in the cargo hold is deader than Elvis. Because it gets damn cold at 35,000 feet

If you look at a Boeing on the ground, you'll see a heat plume coming out of an arpeture in the tail

If you look at the video of the United 767 hitting the south WTC tower, the #1 engine (the one on the left wing) went all the way through the building and traveled another few hundred yards after impact. The wings of a plane are basically thin aluminum. When they hit solid stone going at 600-700 feet per second, not much of them survives as recognizeable wreckage. Pulverized would be an apt description. The fuselage, on the other hand, is built like a brick crapper and would normally make a hole 12' or so around and penetrate several levels into a buidling. As far as I've seen, there was only one video of the plane hitting the north WTC, and it was taken from north of the building. It only shows the plane going in. It doesn't show what came out of the other side. However, when you look at the shots taken of the plane hitting the south tower, you can see all kinds of bits and pieces of the plane coming out seconds later. Including one of the two engines. I've been told the #1 engine landed somewhere around Chambers St., many blocks to the north.

Nebe · 03-24-2006, 08:07 PM

whatever happened...... it sucked.

May we never forget that day

seabass · 03-24-2006, 08:24 PM

....it's all about the benjy's.Theroies are made to be proven or disproved with facts, I watched these facts, where are yours?

tattoobob · 03-24-2006, 09:20 PM

Let me tell you that it was and still is etched in my mind I will never forget it, I was lucky and didn't lose anyone. but if it happened a month earlier I would have lost my wife, she was on the same flight same crew as the first plane. it bothers me to this day. this will never go away and these people that try to find fault with government conspiracy are just paranoid a$$holes

sok · 03-24-2006, 10:15 PM

First cousin,retired Marine pilot.
First civilian job was part of a flight crew for American Airlines Boston to LA.
I found out about 6:00PM (after many phone calls) on Sept 11th that his flight landed safely in LA on Sept 10th.
Same flight. Same route. Same airline. 24 hours off.
Old, close friend of mine had to seek new employment when most of her company ceased to exist on Sept 11.

I'll never forget.

Skip N · 03-25-2006, 01:42 AM

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seabass · 03-25-2006, 06:21 AM

As grave as it might seem, and as embarassing, I would not rule out the possibility of an "inside job" at this point in time. I don't know what happened on Sept 11, other than the fact that many innocent people died. I'm not belittling the losses this country suffered by any means. I don't deny the Holocaust, but Hitler was the "president" of Germany. Show me the proof. Why does our Government not make public all the Information? Certain people had alot to gain. I truly hope that it was Osama, but I will not rule out other suspects untill the truth is proven. The language is really not called for.

Skip N · 03-25-2006, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by seabass

As grave as it might seem, and as embarassing, I would not rule out the possibility of an "inside job" at this point in time. I don't know what happened on Sept 11, other than the fact that many innocent people died. I'm not belittling the losses this country suffered by any means. I don't deny the Holocaust, but Hitler was the "president" of Germany. Show me the proof. Why does our Government not make public all the Information? Certain people had alot to gain. I truly hope that it was Osama, but I will not rule out other suspects untill the truth is proven. The language is really not called for.

Just keep talking, you have no idea how dumb you sound. But keep talking, your comments ammuse me. I love hearing how the extreme left thinks so keep talking! Your really embarasing yourself but if thats ok with you then keep yapping away dude....if you want to believe that W murdered 3000 americans its your right i guess. But just know that what you say stirrs up alot of emotion and rage in people, especially blaming W for killing 3000 Americans. Shameful just shameful

spence · 03-25-2006, 11:47 AM

Skippy, it's someone's opinion...to be honest there are plenty of wierd things about 9/11 that could easily lead someone to see a conspiracy if they have a distrust of government to begin with.

But personally I don't think the Bush Administration has the skill to pull off a job like that without screwing it up!

While I don't believe 9/11 was a neocon plot to justify militarized global transformation, I wouldn't put it past some of them. Just like the radicals we're fighting against they see themselves as agents in a prophecy.

What really scares me is that the fundamentalists on both sides are so consumed with a battle royal for all the marbles they just might make it happen when it doesn't have to be.

-spence