Strper Cup ? - Page 2 - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Squid kids Dad · 03-27-2006, 10:10 PM

I also think boat and shore should be seperated..And the cut off date should be extended..Lots of fishing left...I will be signing up anyways...

tattoobob · 03-27-2006, 10:25 PM

I just reread the entry form and no where does it say it is a separate contests. it keeps saying biggest fish. I would like to sign up with a club.
Does any one know if MSBA is getting involved?

NIB · 03-27-2006, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Clammer

As far as the date ==========it sure ain,t for the boat fisherman ///WTF do you think we catch are large ???? July 4th weekend

Theres a boat out of conn. Adriatica i think has had 60 lbers the last 2 yrs right after 4th of july..In Montauk they have been murderin giants live linen porgies same time.guys who know the waters an fish it hard like Kenny cowhunter an his sinsei Gary could have a field day in a tourney like this.It goes on an on.

Redsoxticket · 03-27-2006, 11:13 PM

The local tourneys such as the ms challenge, tri-state, mv tourney and the fishing club legs are more interesting to me. I don't want to be accountable to have to try to catch a 30#, 40#, etc. for what a pin or a rod/rell combo. I'd rather just fish and enjoy the moment.
The best part is the t-shirt and festival along with winning the Striper Cup for a club because it would represent the club and not just me, me, me.

Striper1 · 03-28-2006, 05:57 AM

If I read the rules right it's the club with the most points that gets the striper cup. Points are 1 pound = 1 point. you are allowed 2 fish a week over 34 inch.

The guys on this board that know me know I like the added chalenge of a tournament BUT I am not takeing 2 fish a week. That's a lot of striper fillets.

I will stick to the local msba Tournaments.

Raven · 03-28-2006, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ThrowingTimber

If sb entered as a club we would f'in OWN that thing

you tellem VIC !

cheferson · 03-28-2006, 07:36 AM

I think there are seperate boat and shore divisions, remember seeing something....

cheferson · 03-28-2006, 07:40 AM

• Angler Of The Year
Trophy will be awarded to the angler who accrues the most points over the season in both the boat and shore divisions

• Weekly Winners (20)
-Weekly Boat Angler Winners (Largest fish of the week)
Rod and Reel Combos
-Weekly Surf Angler Winners (Largest fish of the week)
Rod and Reel Combos

mikecc · 03-28-2006, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Squid kids Dad

I heard M&D'S will be a weigh station for the tourney...

I will be.
They have not worked out the final details with me yet.
They are working on more weigh in stations. Some shops have not gotten back to them and some shops have not even opened for the season as of yet.
They will be adding more. Just give it some time.

blue oyster · 03-28-2006, 10:12 AM

i enter several turnys each year just for some added fun . i have never weighed in a fish yet . (not very good at catching large but hopeful) , i am not going to kill a 32"-40" fish just to have a weigh in , when i know it won't win . 2 fish a week x how many entrants , way to many fish killed ,imho , i won't be signing up for this one

Rockport24 · 03-28-2006, 10:12 AM

yeah, they separate boat and shore for angler of the year and the weekly prizes, but it seems like that is it. It does not say if any of the other awards are separated boat and shore.
The other thing is that the bigger clubs have a huge advantage, but I guess that is just their reward for being a good club and having a lot of members.
Not sure how I feel about the two fish per week thing either, I doubt a lot of people will weigh in two fish per week, but I guess it is a concern.
Overall I think this is a good tourney. Leaving the big money prizes up to chance rather than who caught the biggest overall fish is a good way to work it.

Flaptail · 03-28-2006, 10:49 AM

A wise man once said, "that when all else fails, read the instructions".

Having the contest end on the 17th of September makes it more fair in my opinion and a lot harder to win making it all the more sweet. Also, it evades the competition factor with the MV Derby. Two fish a week is nothing. Afterall, how many of you really think a 30lb fish is what historically considered a big fish? A nice fish maybe but not worth the bother. 40 is better, 50 the goal and 60 the grail. You are going to need a fifty to win individually and the ones I know fishing will be aiming for that. Really you gotta score 40's and fifty's.

As for clubs there really should be a Striped-Bass.com club entry. I am going to fish alone but there should be a S-B.COM club entry.

Swimmer · 03-28-2006, 11:18 AM

I am going to sign up just participate in the first Schaefer Trophy being offered in a long time. I wouldn't be surprised if OTW is showing respect for the grand dame of all new england fishing tournaments, the MVSB & B tourney, by having 9/17 as its closing date. They probably dont want a fish being weighed in in both venues. It could take first place prizes in both tourneys taking the wind out of one or the other tounanments.

Swimmer · 03-28-2006, 11:21 AM

In reality the other day when I took the Scheafer Trphy from flaptail and ut it on the cart to be brought upstairs at "the razor" is probably the only time I'll get to hold it.

Swimmer · 03-28-2006, 11:23 AM

TattooBob it was nice meeting you ans the wife at the Razor.

Mike P · 03-28-2006, 11:28 AM

I think I'm going to enter. I like the fact that they're trying to restore the spirit of the old Schaefer tournament. As an individual (and I'll wait to see whether they'd allow s-b.com to qualify as a club before I send off my check) I wouldn't be entering 34" fish. My goal would be to have a pin, even a 30 pin.

It's the first year. Bound to be some growing pains, and participant feedback might allow OTW to fine tune the rules. I don't love the 9/17 end either, but lets face it, everyone has a shot at big fish in June. Plus, the 9/17 cut off really hurts New Yorkers more than it hurts guys in New England. Lots of years the fall run in NY hasn't even started then. As far as not wanting to compete with MV, assuming there's a weigh station on-Island, I don't see why a fish couldn't be entered in both. Weigh it at Coops, #^&#^&#^&#^&s, Larry's etc first if the Derby's cutting a fin would disqualify a fish. But, I'm willing to live with 9/17. You have to realize that tournaments like this rely heavily on the major sponsors, like Harpoon. If Harpoon wants the awards ceremony to coincide with their promotional interests, like an Octoberfest sort of celebration, you have to let them have it if you want their sponsorship $$$.

JohnR · 03-28-2006, 01:01 PM

If S-B can enter, I would certainly see the site field a team - perhaps also sweeten the pot with some additional prizes to the top S-B fisher (I don't think that would violate OTW's rules - 'course need to RTFM first)...

Might even need to arrange a special, err, trip for this tourney

Flaptail · 03-28-2006, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnR

If S-B can enter, I would certainly see the site field a team - perhaps also sweeten the pot with some additional prizes to the top S-B fisher (I don't think that would violate OTW's rules - 'course need to RTFM first)...

Might even need to arrange a special, err, trip for this tourney

John, I was asked point blank why is S-B.COM not entering as a club by Neal Larson, OTW GM. You certainly qualify, you need to be a registered member to belong and access S-B.com But I would think you would have to have whoever, as an ethical thing, on board before you actually start collecting points. You know which members etc, wouldn't be fair to have someone join last minute cause he got a big one that day and enter it on S-B's behalf but I leave that up to you. I would enjoy seeing Team S-B.Com up there s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g down some UFO from the cup at the party as they are awarded the cup!

jim sylvester · 03-28-2006, 01:56 PM

Flap,
i agree,
I think it would be fantastic to have s-b.com win this cup..

what do you think john??

Sea Dangles · 03-28-2006, 01:58 PM

Many of us belong to more than one club to begin with.Declaring which one you're going to fish for is a hard choice already.Throw in s-b as another choice and sharpies will have their heads spinning and lines will be drawn

The pins will be a nice incentive for me to fish more than usual.People think it's easy getting cows from shore before the close of the tourney but I don't remember too many bigs coming before that date.From the boat though....

Redsoxticket · 03-28-2006, 01:59 PM

The rule below prevents what you indicated about entering because you have a last minute catch. It appears one can enter anytime providing.......

• A competitor must be registered in the derby 1 DAY BEFORE commencing to fish.

Skitterpop · 03-28-2006, 02:02 PM

I`ll do it! Can you do an individual and team entry concurrently?
Sounds like fun. Like Flaptail said, to be fair, you would have to have a timeframe for entry....say between now and May 1st.

$25.00 per member to John.

Sounds exciting!

Krispy · 03-28-2006, 02:15 PM

Again, I'm interested. I would like more clearly defined boat/surf fields. I don't really understand what the rules are saying about awarding points in that regard

Redsoxticket · 03-28-2006, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Indanite

Like Flaptail said, to be fair, you would have to have a timeframe for entry....say between now and May 1st.

The rules have already been posted what is unfair is circumventing the rules.

Skitterpop · 03-28-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Redsoxticket

The rules have already been posted what is unfair is circumventing the rules.

? what do you mean? I`ll have to go read all the stuff I guess.

What I am saying is if S-B.com fields a team entry there should be a signup with a deadline to be on the team. Doesn`t seem right if a S-B er joins up Aug. 23rd catches a biggun on the 24th. Might fit the rulles but doesn`t look good...and yes that is just my opinion.

I`m from Ma. so I don`t know if I can join anyways. Isaw something about State/Club entries.....I might just have to do a solo entry.

Still sounds exciting!

JohnR · 03-28-2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Flaptail

John, I was asked point blank why is S-B.COM not entering as a club by Neal Larson, OTW GM. You certainly qualify, you need to be a registered member to belong and access S-B.com But I would think you would have to have whoever, as an ethical thing, on board before you actually start collecting points. You know which members etc, wouldn't be fair to have someone join last minute cause he got a big one that day and enter it on S-B's behalf but I leave that up to you. I would enjoy seeing Team S-B.Com up there s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g down some UFO from the cup at the party as they are awarded the cup!

Well, Neal did not ask me

what I thought (nobody did for that matter) and nowhere did anyone say S-B would not consider fielding a team. Maybe he asked my doppelganger, NIB

Seriously, I was going to look at more details at the show but did not get a chance and I had not made any determinations yet.

As for a member signing up on S-B and then entering the OTW cup as a S-B member, perhaps our normal rules would apply that in order to participate as an S-B torunament member you need at least 1 week of registration and 10 posts - as long as that fits within the rules of the OTW tourney...

ThrowingTimber · 03-28-2006, 03:17 PM

If all registered users saddled up for SB omg!! Total ownage!!!!

I understand guys want to fish for their clubs as well though, but the level of OWNAGE think about it...

Redsoxticket · 03-28-2006, 03:41 PM

The same can be said with other on-line clubs with members exceeding 10,000+

Goose · 03-28-2006, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Flaptail

A wise man once said, "that when all else fails, read the instructions".

Having the contest end on the 17th of September makes it more fair in my opinion and a lot harder to win making it all the more sweet. Also, it evades the competition factor with the MV Derby. Two fish a week is nothing. Afterall, how many of you really think a 30lb fish is what historically considered a big fish? A nice fish maybe but not worth the bother. 40 is better, 50 the goal and 60 the grail. You are going to need a fifty to win individually and the ones I know fishing will be aiming for that. Really you gotta score 40's and fifty's.

As for clubs there really should be a Striped-Bass.com club entry. I am going to fish alone but there should be a S-B.COM club entry.

I agree. Lookin forward to it.

NIB · 03-28-2006, 08:58 PM

[QUOTE=JohnR] Maybe he asked my doppelganger, NIB

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I no Nothing.
I especially don't know what a doppelganger is.
Whats with the tooth thing??
Don't make me end this thread.
Not about killin lots o fish for total points.Anymore.killed my share in NJ club tourney's.Definetly not a tree hugger though. i love to eat fish.
All kinds.
Not sure i need any pins either.If it becomes something along the lines of shaeffer i might miss out on ownin some when i'm old an gray an no one will believe my line o crap.
If any talent gets in it will take a 60 lber to win.