Taxes

[TheSpecialist]

The illegals affect this country in many ways. They have a large affect on the rental market. They will live 5-10 in a two bedroom apt, and won't think twice about paying 1500 a month for it either. Now if you were a husband and wife with 2 kids, your wife stays at home to raise the kids, and lets be generous and say you make 70,000/ year. Are you going to be able to afford 1500/month for an apt, 2 car payments, insurance through the roof on the cars cause of all the insurance scams the illegals pull, clothes, food, and utilites? It goes on and on and on..

Now let's say there are no more illegals, you had to pluck lettuce. Who's to say that the lettuce guy isn't enjoying such huge profits now, that he would not be able to absorb some of the cost of raising wages to attract AMERICANS. If you had to pay .25 / per head of lettuce more would it kill you ?

[spence]

Originally Posted by TheSpecialist

If you had to pay .25 / per head of lettuce more would it kill you ?

Well, a few thoughts...

Thought 1) How many Americans want to pick lettuce?

Thought 2) How many Americans want to pay more for lettuce?

Thought 3) How many people don't want to think about who picks their lettuce?

-spence

[Redsoxticket]

Retailers will purchase crops from others countries in order to increase their profit margin because as a citizen there are labor practices that the farm employers have to adhere to such as minimum hourly wages, workmens comp., etc.
These farms could then be subsidized by your tax dollars or risk being bought up by development for housing, stores, etc..
History of the farms like dairy will likely repeat itself.

[Redsoxticket]

Continue.....

The closing of however many agriculture farms will result in further unemployment for those unfortunate to enter the labor market.

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by spence

Well, a few thoughts...

Thought 1) How many Americans want to pick lettuce?

Thought 2) How many Americans want to pay more for lettuce?

Thought 3) How many people don't want to think about who picks their lettuce?

-spence

Sounds like some good jobs for the people sitting on thier asses collecting welfare! Get them out there and they can feel as though they are earning thier welfare checks. And the homeless folks and unemployed Americans, why cant they do these jobs???

[Redsoxticket]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Sounds like some good jobs for the people sitting on thier asses collecting welfare! Get them out there and they can feel as though they are earning thier welfare checks. And the homeless folks and unemployed Americans, why cant they do these jobs???

It depends on the demographics for that area.
I don't know this but there are probably less people on welfare in that area because the climate is condusive for jobs. However, the welfare role will likely increase in the near future.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Skip N

And the homeless folks and unemployed Americans, why cant they do these jobs???

Skippy, a large percentage (a majority?) of homless are either mentally ill or addicted to substances...they wouldn't be of much help.

The majority of welfare receipients already work for a living, or are unable to work. While there are freeloaders I think you're placing a little too much into a well worn stereotype.

Remember that a lot of money earned by illegal workers is sent home, which is why they're here in the first place!

Have you ever seen the shanty towns outside of cities in California that house migrant workers?

The only way to get Americans to do the work is either provide a living wage or enslavement...there's a balance already that will be difficult to upset.

-spence

[Jenn]

I try to grow as much of my own lettuce as I can and i pick it myself. SO I can afford to pay my taxes......

[Nebe]

Just remember.. every job sent over to china has the potential for putting one american family on welfare.. One honest hard working family. Are they freeloaders?

[fishaholic18]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Just remember.. every job sent over to china has the potential for putting one american family on welfare.. One honest hard working family. Are they freeloaders?

Great point.
So true.