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04-28-2006, 07:26 AM
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I just wish that the people that will have to put up with looking and listening to it would benefit from it.
They say it will generate 3/4 of the power the cape needs, but then they tell you the power is going 'into the grid'. It will be a very small portion of what is in the grid, so while realistically there is more power to meet our needs the cape won't directly benefit from it. There are no guarantees the electric rates down there will even go down. Wonder what 140 turbines sound like with a 15+ mph sw wind blowing the sound onshore all summer.
Its too bad this has to be a for profit thing.
Last edited by Diggin Jiggin; 04-28-2006 at 07:32 AM..
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04-28-2006, 07:42 AM
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lobster = striper bait
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Popes Island Performing Arts Center
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Originally Posted by Diggin Jiggin
Wonder what 140 turbines sound like with a 15+ mph sw wind blowing the sound onshore all summer.
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It dosen't sound like anything?
Because you can't hear them.
Scott: I thought Goetz thought that one up? And half the boats I race on were built down at TPI  (couple sleds and a couple JBoats)
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Ski Quicks Hole
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04-28-2006, 07:59 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Fall River Mass
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Originally Posted by likwid
It dosen't sound like anything?
Because you can't hear them.
Scott: I thought Goetz thought that one up? And half the boats I race on were built down at TPI  (couple sleds and a couple JBoats)
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Well when we started in back in 94, we were made to sign an agreement and were told we were the first to do it, but who really knows. I worked mostly at the Portsmouth plant, all the boats are made in bristol (which I built more that a few). The portsmouth plant was dedicated to blades. They now build a cute little sailer called a Alerion, decently priced and put together ok, I did the electronics installes on a few as a sub contractor last year to help out a friend, it was fun climbing in a bilge again
they do make noise, but it is the blades, not the generators, it is a low hum, it reminds me of that austrailian instrument, the Diggerydoo (sp?) just slower. And only in very high winds
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04-28-2006, 08:11 AM
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lobster = striper bait
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Popes Island Performing Arts Center
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Originally Posted by ScottC
Well when we started in back in 94, we were made to sign an agreement and were told we were the first to do it, but who really knows. I worked mostly at the Portsmouth plant, all the boats are made in bristol (which I built more that a few). The portsmouth plant was dedicated to blades. They now build a cute little sailer called a Alerion, decently priced and put together ok, I did the electronics installes on a few as a sub contractor last year to help out a friend, it was fun climbing in a bilge again 
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The alerion is a total sleeper too.
Old school above water layout with a high performance bottom.
Bristol did a good job fixing their own work too. (When x-Titan XI was t-boned at Antigua). You'd never know they stuffed a wide body sheet winch all the way past the pedastle.
I'm glad I only work on sleds these days. No crawling in bilges. All the carbon panels just pop out and everything is routed cleanly.
God bless empty boats.
Been helping my father put B&G Network on his Cape Dory 36... thankfully using the old wires as messengers but some spots have been at the very least... "interesting".
But back to the topic, yes, it takes alot of wind for those blades to start humming.
Probably a vast majority of the days, unless you looked up at them, you'd never know they were there.
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Ski Quicks Hole
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04-28-2006, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by likwid
The alerion is a total sleeper too.
Old school above water layout with a high performance bottom.
Bristol did a good job fixing their own work too. (When x-Titan XI was t-boned at Antigua). You'd never know they stuffed a wide body sheet winch all the way past the pedastle.
I'm glad I only work on sleds these days. No crawling in bilges. All the carbon panels just pop out and everything is routed cleanly.
God bless empty boats.
Been helping my father put B&G Network on his Cape Dory 36... thankfully using the old wires as messengers but some spots have been at the very least... "interesting".
But back to the topic, yes, it takes alot of wind for those blades to start humming.
Probably a vast majority of the days, unless you looked up at them, you'd never know they were there.
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B&B huh, probably the highest quality electronics on the market. They sold out to Simrad a few years back. VERY high priced though, the masthead unit is three time the cost of a raymarine 
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04-28-2006, 10:08 AM
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lobster = striper bait
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Popes Island Performing Arts Center
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Originally Posted by ScottC
B&B huh, probably the highest quality electronics on the market. They sold out to Simrad a few years back. VERY high priced though, the masthead unit is three time the cost of a raymarine 
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I do work mostly on the Hercules and Hydra systems. You can buy a boat for what some of these full systems cost.
Got a tabletpc with Deckman sitting on my desk here right now running as a slave to my laptop running Deckman as the master via bluetooth doing some testing.
Observation of the day: don't load a polar file for wind trends as the polar file for the boat. It makes deckman crash and you have to reinstall it. Ball Peen hammer next to all nav stations as far as im concerned. (not to smash the computer, but to smash the fingers of the idiot who screws it up in the middle of a race)
Gougeon Brothers used to build boats and windmill blades with laminated wood and their "secret sauce" epoxy in the 80's
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Ski Quicks Hole
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04-28-2006, 11:15 AM
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Location: Fall River Mass
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Originally Posted by likwid
I do work mostly on the Hercules and Hydra systems. You can buy a boat for what some of these full systems cost.
Gougeon Brothers used to build boats and windmill blades with laminated wood and their "secret sauce" epoxy in the 80's
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That's right and we all know what the "secret sauce" ended up being now don't we 
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04-28-2006, 07:46 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Marshfield, MA
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I'm in favor of them, no argument. Lots of people think they are ugly....I think they are allot more pleasent to look at than a cooling tower or big smoke stacks. 5 miles offshore they will look relatively small. Initial studies say the birds aren't a problem. Hopefully you'll be able to fish near them but with today security stuff you'll probably be restricted by 300 feet or so.
As far as lowering anyones bill....especially on the cape, forget it. Into the grid and sold for as much as the grid is willing to pay for that day.
Does anyone know how the 2 turbines in hull operated money wise? I'm sure it goes into the grid and the town gets a check monthly. Are they owned by the town or leased or private? I didn't read too much in the paper about them.
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Jon, 24' Nauset-Green Topsides, Beamie, North River. Channel 68/69. MSBA, NIBA
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