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04-28-2006, 03:07 PM
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Formerly the_shocker
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: ricca
Posts: 730
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switched to pp last year. would only consider using big game 17-20 lb for the rocks. can't resist the extra distance and sensitivity. i just ease up on the drag
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04-28-2006, 04:41 PM
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Where'd he go?
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Rhody
Posts: 849
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I was thinking the same thing. Big Game has been my mono of choice but it has let me down several times have been considering trying Yozuri Hybid for over a year now. Given the fact that there was a lot of positive feedback last year on Ande Back Country I think I will try them both and form my own opnion as to which of the three will be my mono of choice. Based on my limited research on Back Country last year what I found out was it was made for fishing shallow water with fairly heavy cover or structure. They say it has good abrasion resistance but what I also learned was it was said it is because it is a very bouyant line so it floats above the nasty stuff making it easier to fish these conditions but I'll definately be trying it to form my own conclusion.
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04-28-2006, 05:23 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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Uh.......is Ande Backcountry even available. I think they may have stopped making it this year.
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04-28-2006, 05:25 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
Posts: 4,949
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
Uh.......is Ande Backcountry even available. I think they may have stopped making it this year.
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I have just seen a 4000 an change yd spool 20 an 25 lb at my local shop.
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FORE!
It's usually darkest just before it turns Black..
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04-28-2006, 05:36 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
Posts: 4,949
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I know I have been told differently here but i could swear ande back country blue is just a color difference not a different line.I have used the pink for yrs.As it cast's on a conventional with out getting it wet.big game has a dry lubricant on it that will burn the sh!it out of ur thumb if u don't wet it.I used to spray some armourall on a newlly filled reel so i could keep my thumb skin.
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FORE!
It's usually darkest just before it turns Black..
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04-28-2006, 07:19 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 153
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Nib, is that color change you think of on Ande the
Tournament (which I usually use tossing plugs) or Premium?
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04-28-2006, 07:49 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: New Haven Ct
Posts: 957
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I like big game I have always used it.Never really had any problems w/ it which is why I really haven't tried many other lines.I'am giving the backcountry a try this year as I picked up 3 1/2 pound spools this winter when I was down south.I hope to find it alittle more abrasion resisteance.Is it me or does the backcounty seem alittle stiffer the the big game?
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04-28-2006, 08:57 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Southern NH
Posts: 3,781
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
Uh.......is Ande Backcountry even available. I think they may have stopped making it this year.
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Bass Pro has some but not big spools
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Good health and family
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04-28-2006, 09:25 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: RI
Posts: 5,705
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I've always hated everything about braid.I hate the way it feels,how it comes off and goes on the spool.I've used them all and I just don't like it.I don't fish conventional gear or fish the canal or jig for cod where from my understanding its outstanding.
Where I live(Aquidneck Island) I've never needed the extra casting distance that I might get from braid.From the eel grass on the north end to the rocks on the south mono has always been my choice.
I always used Biggame then went to Hybrid for years.After reading #^^^^^^&'s and Piemma's posts about BackCountry I decided to give it a try last year and was so pleased with it I went with it full-time this year.Its the only line I'll now use its that good IMO.
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04-28-2006, 09:41 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: RI
Posts: 21,501
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There was a rumor last year that Back Country was going to be killed, but that was bunk...
It's certainly not the same as Big Game, even I can tell you that. It's great on small conventionals and even spinners...although I don't like it for lighter spinning stuff, say less than 2 ounces. It is very durable.
Iron Mike is a character...met him about 4 times at SWE.
-spence
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04-29-2006, 10:31 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,888
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I spoke to Ande last Fall and, no, they are not discontinuing Back Country.
I have used everything in the last 30 years and the Ande Back Country is by far the best mono I have used. I have it in a VS250 and Shimano Calcutta 400. Great resistance to abrasion, stays limp in cold weather and very little memory.
I have been using a new braid this year. It's Cortland Master Braid and it super on conventionals. Very smooth and it seem like I am getting 20+ yards more distance. It's a bit pricy. I paid $44.00 for 300 yard spool. It's modeled after the old Spectron that Cortland came out with in the early 90s but much improved.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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04-28-2006, 07:30 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 17,126
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My dad uses youzuri hybrid.
he uses spiderwire for braid.
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04-28-2006, 07:37 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Marshfield, MA
Posts: 6,267
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I use the yozuri hybrid and power pro....trying big game on a smaller reel....used to use it in the fresh
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04-28-2006, 07:52 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Burlington
Posts: 2,290
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Nib - I know where you are coming from and I use braid almost exclusively now. I was brought up on rag line on a sqidder when there was no mono. We used Assinippe line and loved it.
I like Yozuri for braid better than big game - had less problems using it over big game before going to power pro. I now spool up with PP and use a LONG shock leader to allow for decent hooksets with out tearing the jig or plug out of the fishes mouth. It also gives me the stretch on a long cast that is not there with power pro. As for plugging, I still like the power pro and long leader setup.
525 penn with 65lb PP and youzuri shock in the ditch jiggin. You cannot feel the bottom with mono as well as you can with braid! 7000CL Abu with 50lb PP and flouro leader for plugs in the ditch. 40lb. PP on pro rocket and a 20lb leader for plugs off the surf. All my stuff is conventional.
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low & slow 37
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04-28-2006, 08:03 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: CT but only fish in RI
Posts: 155
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i've used yozuri in 10 and 12 lb tests, and i loved it. i really liked it for leaders. i also used the 130 lb. for livelining leaders. it has less vivibility then mono, but doesn't peel away like straight flouro does in rocks. that said, i'm trying hybrid extra soft or whatever it is this year on convench in 30 lb.
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fishing is not a love, but an obsession
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04-28-2006, 08:18 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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Every season I flip flop back and forth I always end up with Triline big game, I only use spinning and have never had a problem with it. right now I have fire line power pro and triline big game on my reels. I change the mono once a week during a season. I just filled my VS 200with 50 pound PP and it was 22 bucks, I can spool 5 reels once a week with mono for 5 months for that money.
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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04-28-2006, 09:17 PM
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#17
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
Posts: 5,985
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I fished an awful long time using 20# Ande. Mostly 'cos it was cheap and worked. When Braids showed up I put 30# Fireline on the squidder (Bait setup) and fell in love. The spinners that didn't twist it got the same treatment. There were adjustment to make; No more Hercules hooksets, didn't need them to overcome stretch and drag settings became way more important. Without the stretch of mono, the fish have something to work against that is almost solid unlike the rubber band mono. But! I have found that the stretch is sometimes very desireable when plugging. I get a much better "Walk the Dog" with mono than with braid. The mono's stretch does much of the work when you get in the rhythm. It also gives a hop/leap action to lead jigs on the bottom and Bombers' swimming. They both have their places and that's probably why I have so much gear.
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