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Old 05-02-2006, 09:42 AM   #1
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The coast guard get deployed in full force to round up, and deliver all illegals to Mexico, then they are assigned to gaurd the border.

I can vouch for my legal status, my ancestors have only been here a couple generations.

in order to have civil war break out, your CITIZENS have to arm themselves and fight the government. THis will not happen, no way no how.
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Old 05-02-2006, 09:47 AM   #2
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QUOTE=ScottCThe coast guard get deployed in full force to round up, and deliver all illegals to Mexico, then they are assigned to gaurd the border.


The CG's are already underfunded and overstretched... would need to double their budget and fleet. Also, ever see a CG stand in the Arizona desert in August?

"I can vouch for my legal status, my ancestors have only been here a couple generations."

Scott, I wasnt calling anyone out, but you have a leg to stand on in the argument then....

"in order to have civil war break out, your CITIZENS have to arm themselves and fight the government. THis will not happen, no way no how"

I'm not advocating that, I'm saying they try deporting 11Mil people and violence of some kind probably will errupt.....

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Old 05-02-2006, 09:49 AM   #3
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QUOTE=ScottCThe coast guard get deployed in full force to round up, and deliver all illegals to Mexico, then they are assigned to gaurd the border.


The CG's are already underfunded and overstretched... would need to double their budget and fleet. Also, ever see a CG stand in the Arizona desert in August?

"I can vouch for my legal status, my ancestors have only been here a couple generations."

Scott, I wasnt calling anyone out, but you have a leg to stand on in the argument then....

"in order to have civil war break out, your CITIZENS have to arm themselves and fight the government. THis will not happen, no way no how"

I'm not advocating that, I'm saying they try deporting 11Mil people and violence of some kind probably will errupt.....

Stand where? We build them nice outposts with AC, this is the USA after all and we need to just pull our sorry aasses out od Iraq and have our guys defend somthing worth defending, out own borders
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The coast guard get deployed in full force to round up, and deliver all illegals to Mexico, then they are assigned to gaurd the border.
That should get rid of all of the Illegals......

And the Bonus is the Price of Heroin and Cocaine will be WAY down as the Supply should Go WAY up because the Coast Guard is busy doing the INS's Job instead of patroling the Waters like they were intended to do. So it will be open season for the Drug Traffickers

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Old 05-02-2006, 09:54 AM   #5
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That should get rid of all of the Illegals......

And the Bonus is the Price of Heroin and Cocaine will be WAY down as the Supply should Go WAY up because the Coast Guard is busy doing the INS's Job instead of patroling the Waters like they were intended to do. So it will be open season for the Drug Traffickers
Really huh? So them fighting over in iraq is ok though? Our waters are voulnerable right now? All the drug traffickers are running rampid right now right?

Yeah right.

You take the guys out of Iraq, and put them on our southern border, This is not hard to understand.
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Really huh? So them fighting over in iraq is ok though? Our waters are voulnerable right now? All the drug traffickers are running rampid right now right?

Yeah right.

You take the guys out of Iraq, and put them on our southern border, This is not hard to understand.
I'm confused.. take the CG's out of Iraq or the army out of Iraq to defend the border???

There are ~1951 miles of border between Mexico and the US... thats alot of gaurding.... show me a plan (the gov't) that can accomplish this.. I say it is BS.... cant be done.
I'm ignoring 5000 miles shared with Canada, so they sneak into canada and then sneak across there....

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Old 05-02-2006, 09:58 AM   #7
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Bryan, he's just spouting nonsense to string you along

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Bryan, he's just spouting nonsense to string you along

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HAHAHA, your redicluous comments don't even belong in this argument.
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Bryan, he's just spouting nonsense to string you along

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No doubt... however this is typical...

If I were to apply for research money saying I'm going to do this without a how, when etc... it would get laughed at...
Congress can say 11Million people will get deported and our borders secured... but there is no How or when..... go figure....

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Oh come now, Scott has plenty of "How".

I'm sure his next idea will be to hire "Snake Plissken"

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I'm confused.. take the CG's out of Iraq or the army out of Iraq to defend the border???

There are ~1951 miles of border between Mexico and the US... thats alot of gaurding.... show me a plan (the gov't) that can accomplish this.. I say it is BS.... cant be done.
I'm ignoring 5000 miles shared with Canada, so they sneak into canada and then sneak across there....
Ofcourse you say it is BS, your commited to failure, you will never understand how it can be done.

We defend it the same way we invade countries. With military force, sure this sounds extreme . Every war we have ever fought sounded extreme.
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Really huh? So them fighting over in iraq is ok though?
Umm.....NO...But thats a different thread and a different argument.

I would love to hear how the Coast Guard is going to patrol the borders in their cutters though...that should be interesting.

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Umm.....NO...But thats a different thread and a different argument.

I would love to hear how the Coast Guard is going to patrol the borders in their cutters though...that should be interesting.
Another redicluous comment, and it is not a different thread, I used the war specifically bacause you said out coasts would be unguarded, and I proved it is not due to them being is iraq already, very simple.

Cutters on land huh hahahaha.

I just realized I am aruging with delusional people!

I am done
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Another redicluous comment, and it is not a different thread, I used the war specifically bacause you said out coasts would be unguarded, and I proved it is not due to them being is iraq already, very simple.

Cutters on land huh hahahaha.

I just realized I am aruging with delusional people!

I am done

How is that a ridiculous comment...you're the one who brought up the idea of taking a fighting force that was built for protecting our shores....on the WATER, and using them to protect the Borders....on LAND.

....and putting even more of a strain on the Coast Guard isn't exactly going to help strengthen the defense of our coasts either.

Drug Trafficking is running rampant, our nation's Seaport security is a joke, and we are currently in a war on terrorism. and you want to use our fighting men to round up Pedro and his family for trying to sneak in for the chance at picking onions for below minimum wage.

....and I'm Dilusional

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How is that a ridiculous comment...you're the one who brought up the idea of taking a fighting force that was built for protecting our shores....on the WATER, and using them to protect the Borders....on LAND.

....and putting even more of a strain on the Coast Guard isn't exactly going to help strengthen the defense of our coasts either.

Drug Trafficking is running rampant, our nation's Seaport security is a joke, and we are currently in a war on terrorism. and you want to use our fighting men to round up Pedro and his family for trying to sneak in for the chance at picking onions for below minimum wage.

....and I'm Dilusional
Yes you are, the Coast guard are specifically trained to guard borders, you take them ALONG WITH The OTHER FORCES ( I put that in caps so you selective reading would pick it up) And asign them to our southern borders. You take the CG and have them train the National guard currently deployed in Iraq to protect out borders on land.

And I guess you don;t think drugs come through our southern borders right! HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
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Arrow they'd all be back in a week!

if you could wave a magic wand today...

and they were all gone... all back in mexico........

there is no stopping that force... a fence?
is a JOKE

there is only...... changing the law....

and Scot : going to war with mexico
would start a civil war here...
like we've never seen before...
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