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Old 05-02-2006, 10:34 AM   #1
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Another redicluous comment, and it is not a different thread, I used the war specifically bacause you said out coasts would be unguarded, and I proved it is not due to them being is iraq already, very simple.

Cutters on land huh hahahaha.

I just realized I am aruging with delusional people!

I am done

How is that a ridiculous comment...you're the one who brought up the idea of taking a fighting force that was built for protecting our shores....on the WATER, and using them to protect the Borders....on LAND.

....and putting even more of a strain on the Coast Guard isn't exactly going to help strengthen the defense of our coasts either.

Drug Trafficking is running rampant, our nation's Seaport security is a joke, and we are currently in a war on terrorism. and you want to use our fighting men to round up Pedro and his family for trying to sneak in for the chance at picking onions for below minimum wage.

....and I'm Dilusional

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Old 05-02-2006, 10:43 AM   #2
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How is that a ridiculous comment...you're the one who brought up the idea of taking a fighting force that was built for protecting our shores....on the WATER, and using them to protect the Borders....on LAND.

....and putting even more of a strain on the Coast Guard isn't exactly going to help strengthen the defense of our coasts either.

Drug Trafficking is running rampant, our nation's Seaport security is a joke, and we are currently in a war on terrorism. and you want to use our fighting men to round up Pedro and his family for trying to sneak in for the chance at picking onions for below minimum wage.

....and I'm Dilusional
Yes you are, the Coast guard are specifically trained to guard borders, you take them ALONG WITH The OTHER FORCES ( I put that in caps so you selective reading would pick it up) And asign them to our southern borders. You take the CG and have them train the National guard currently deployed in Iraq to protect out borders on land.

And I guess you don;t think drugs come through our southern borders right! HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
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Old 05-02-2006, 01:09 PM   #3
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Yes you are, the Coast guard are specifically trained to guard borders
No they are specifically trained for Seaport and Harbor Security (I Underlined and Bolded for your Selective reading Pleasure)

On 29 January 2003, General Richard Myers, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, was asked, "The Coast Guard announced today [it is] sending eight cutters, 600 people, to the Persian Gulf, which I understand is the first time they have been dispatched to a combat zone since the Vietnam War. What's the thinking behind that, and what's their mission going to be?" General Myers answered, "For the Coast Guard, primarily for port and harbor and waterway security. That's what they do best."

This also from the US Coast Guard Web Site...its there Mission Statement

"The United States Coast Guard is a military, multi-mission, maritime service and one of the nation’s five Armed Services. Its mission is to protect the public, the environment, and U.S. economic interests – in the nation’s ports and waterways, along the coast, on international waters, or in any maritime region as required to support national security."


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You take the CG and have them train the National guard currently deployed in Iraq to protect out borders on land.
And this here makes sense take a unit that is specifically trained to operate on the Water and have THEM train the troops that were already trained to work on the ground. HAHAHAHAHAA!!


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And I guess you don;t think drugs come through our southern borders right! HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
Drugs come into this country by Air, Sea, and Land. Weakening one area to strengthen another does absolutely no good.

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Old 05-02-2006, 01:12 PM   #4
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Exactly...
The CG's have a tough enough job already...
Yeah they deal with illegals (cubans) who try and float over, but that is not their main gig!
I've had enough of this thread... circular logic is a waste of an argument!

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[QUOTE=The Dad Fisherman]No they are specifically trained for Seaport and Harbor Security (I Underlined and Bolded for your Selective reading Pleasure)

On 29 January 2003, General Richard Myers, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, was asked, "The Coast Guard announced today [it is] sending eight cutters, 600 people, to the Persian Gulf, which I understand is the first time they have been dispatched to a combat zone since the Vietnam War. What's the thinking behind that, and what's their mission going to be?" General Myers answered, "For the Coast Guard, primarily for port and harbor and waterway security. That's what they do best."

This also from the US Coast Guard Web Site...its there Mission Statement

"The United States Coast Guard is a military, multi-mission, maritime service and one of the nation’s five Armed Services. Its mission is to protect the public, the environment, and U.S. economic interests – in the nation’s ports and waterways, along the coast, on international waters, or in any maritime region as required to support national security."

And this here makes sense take a unit that is specifically trained to operate on the Water and have THEM train the troops that were already trained to work on the ground. HAHAHAHAHAA!!


Yes, they are specifically traind to guard borders, they are trained to search vessles, and read people on a face to face basis. just because a RV can't float don't not make it any different then a boat hahahah

So you think searching boats and land vehicles are different in some way hahahahaha. They are TRAINED TO FIND SMUGGLERS HAHAHA they have been dealing with similar problems on our coasts for decades, they can help train the national guard to deal with the new issues they will face

. So by your reasoing, Navy should not fly jets right? They should leave that to the Airforce correct? After all the navy it trained to fight on the water! HAHAHAHAH Let me guess, they coast guard need to be on ships to function right? Dude, your hilarious


Drugs come into this country by Air, Sea, and Land. Weakening one area to strengthen another does absolutely no good


Again, more proof of your selective reading, you take the troops that are in iraq and asign them to the borders, not take them from the seaports You are definetly the only one here with selective reading issues hahaha


Everything else I didn't bother addressing for obvious reasons.

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