P-Town Closures 6/11

[backbeach]

Habs, Excellent point about Art's Dune Tours, what difference is his rig than ours- is it a hovercraft? Nope, If you pay - you can play...just don't try to get more than a glimpse of the beach- you might enjoy it and want to come back; just pay your fare and move back into town and spend, spend, spend. I almost look forward to the seals tolling in some big great whites tight to the beach. When the tourists can't swim (like sections of California) see how the Chamber Of Commerce howls since people aren't going to plan vacations for minigolf and T-shirt shops alone. Or when the coliform count from seal crap closes beaches... Once the novelty of the seals wears off, the locals will still be stuck with them, cause the tree huggers will be raising funds in the rest of the country to fight any controls anyone will come up with for them. (They are more cuddly looking on a begging letter than the foolish Plovers - and looked what havoc they have brought on us). It's all a red herring to keep us off the beaches, and they are implementing it incrementally and have been for years...enjoy the scraps they give you in 2006, because it'll look like the"good old days" in 5 years.

[Back Beach]

Originally Posted by Krispy

Yer more of a Ditch guy, eh?

You burned my favorite spot. Nice picture of me in my skinny days though.

[Backbeach Jake]

HEY! Lookit all the Backbeaches!!

[backbeach]

Backbeach Jake. Yeah, and it seemed so original at the time....I don't suppose we could call you "BJ"? Nah, never mind- don't like the sound of that after all....

[Back Beach]

Please make note that I am now the "Mighty" Back Beach to avoid any future identity theft or misdirected insults.

[RickBomba]

I'm gonna use the free parking all next week, every day, all day long!
we'll see how much they like a big black Avalanche in the parking lot with a huge "I love Jugs" sticker on the back blaring Judas Priest on my 500 watt stereo.
I invite as many of you all as humanly possible to join me.
Later,
Rick (and Mikey too)

[LeCounts1099]

I want to park with, & fish w/ Rick! Sounds like a pissah!-- hope the towns don't mind the overflow fishermen! But that takes care of the access issue, at select back- beach lots (if they tolerate these displaced 4WD guys in their lots long!). That still leaves the Seals... & mung... & now new crowds to deal with that were sand- driving P-Town & Nauset prior!

Well, this Cape fearless forecaster predicts the worst Mung year on the Cape yet!... the most seals yet! (even the master Tonys are acknowledging the problem is bad by now)... and thus the worst Bass Surf- fishing there yet in '06. PLEASE someone go and prove me wrong-- but this year I'll stay closer to home & save gas too (if 100- 200 miles away is "close?").

Flap... all due respect: but "get a boat" is no solace to die- hard Beach fishermen, esp. those in love with the Backside from it's glory years. I do have a (modest) boat: had a 35 lber. two nights ago on it. My first thought: this would've been a heck of a fish/ fight from the rocks of M., or the sands of Eastham. Yes: a surf- caught cow is thrice as big an accomplishment & rush, as is the same boat- caught fish. And double that if the beach is somewhere between Race Point and Nauset in early October! As close to Heaven-- and peace & solitude-- as there is in the Striper surf World! Yes I / we miss those days/ nights... & that place, & wish seals & ORV restrictions & worsening Mung didn't conspire to make us die- hards give it up for elsewhere-- or to seek boats...

The lots will be fun though this Summer! Might make up for the lack of fish, & etc.-- I might make the trip once just to check out that scene! Hopefully Rick & friends will let me know where they are to join the party/ protest: I'll bring the Led Zep & Rush & Jimi & Ozzy! They'll re- open the beachs (to clear the lots of us "riff- raff") in no time afterward!

[RickBomba]

I'll be there June 24th to July 2nd.

[LeCounts1099]

HC lot, South end? RP lot? HOM West lot? (I guess it depends on fishing-- & Sealing!... at that time!) 10 PM, one night? (June 30?)

Maybe I'll bring a few surplus BM Needles & Lifishinvt Darters & Gibbs Pencils for raffling away... & we'll really pack the lot of Bass- nuts, to stand out from the bonfire/ College- types! (Someone w/ a van bring the keg? I'll pay w/ the plug proceeds!)

[Jenn]

no van and no keg.....but I got plenty of the homemade wine.....

Rick...Jugas Preist? C'mon.........we need some oldschool death metal....

[Backbeach Jake]

Originally Posted by backbeach

Backbeach Jake. Yeah, and it seemed so original at the time....I don't suppose we could call you "BJ"? Nah, never mind- don't like the sound of that after all....

Nah, "BJ" is my brother Bob. Over in FrankD's place, I was Backbeach until backbeach showed up. He'd signed up earlier so I changed to relieve some of the confusion. I was reading posts that I couldn't remember posting. Call me Jake or Fred, I'll accept either.

[Bottomgun]

Howdy everybody. I've been away since '89 working in other parts of the world, and got my new $150 sticker eagerly looking forward to some Race Point fishin' & relaxin' my first year back. Yikes! How things have gotten worse.

When I started doing the ORV thing at the Race in '75, the sticker was $15.00/year, ALL of the beach was open, 2 dune trails were open (the inner and outer dune routes from RP to High Head beach), the Rangers did not bother any fisherman sleeping on the beach overnight, so we would curl up in a tire rut next to our trucks without worrying about getting hassled. As a city guy I would drive down from Boston every weekend without worrying about a closure.

Piping Plover nests would get “orange flagged” and when the birds fledged, and as warned, we would watch out for the little runts in our tire tracks and make sure we did not run over them, or watch that they did not get trapped in a tire rut as they occasionally did.

Then it ALL started changing for the bad. What started the downhill slide IMHO were the movies “Smokey and the Bandit” and “Convoy” that came out in about 1978/79. Those flicks spawned what we striper/blue fishermen lovingly called the “Yahoos” (well before the invention of the internet Yahoo.com)….as in…“Here come the f’n Yahoos!” Within months of the new CB radio craze these turkeys got brand new 4WDs and decided to go dune blasting like they would do in the TV commercials for 4WDs. Over the bushes, grasses and everything/everywhere else they could go. The Yahoos especially liked dune blasting at night with their Halogen lights and so they could turn them off to evade the overwhelmed Park Rangers. Plover chicks were found flattened in tire tracks so there was hell to pay.

The Yahoos started sleeping on the beach with no fishing gear aboard which obviously over-crowded the beach after awhile, and some started to go into Hatches Harbor and dig up the Soft Shell clams for steamers, even though there were signs saying “NO CLAM DIGGING.” They would cruise too close to the fore dune, let the family out to climb the dune stomping out the dune grasses, and then pee and crap openly on top of the dunes.

After a season or two of this, the dune trails were closed down due to damage, the rules were changed saying fishermen had to be actively fishing overnight, so it got risky to take a nap under penalty of a sticker suspension for the rest of the ORV season. During the ‘80s I watched the sticker rates start to climb, and beach section closures start, but the damage was done and it looks like from what I have read on this thread it has just gotten tougher. It only took a few to spoil it for the many.

Well the aforementioned gives you some prospective on how I feel we got started to where we are today, and hope to see you out there later this summer. Cheers.

Bottomgun

[Karl F]

Good Post Bottomgun, welcome to SB.

You made me remember KC highliters, hi-boyF250's with 12x35x15 tires. Liftkitted K10 blazers with fat tires.. CB's yep..all shiny two tone paint, and them ripping around, making their own trails.
Lots of Alchohol Impaired, Burt Reynolds wannabes running around back then.
I remember telling one beach official that 4 wheel drive was ruining the beaches.. ban it. Make the beaches 2 wheel drive vehicles only, would have elminated a LOT of the Yahoos!
That arguement didn't fly, because of the other breed of Yahoos.. the ones in the dune buggy kit converted VW's with the Huge sand tires on the rear... they had to blast and jump every GD dune they saw....

meybe we should just ban Yahoos?