Israel and World War Three

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by stormfish

Example... If your cousins committed a crime. Should you and everyone else in your family be sentence to jail? There's no justice for Isreal to murder civilians by air attack.

Israel attacks militay targets, Hezbalah goes after civilians only. You do realize this right?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Israel attacks militay targets, Hezbalah goes after civilians only. You do realize this right?

No, that's not a fair assessment.

-spence

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Israel attacks militay targets, Hezbalah goes after civilians only. You do realize this right?

Skip ... this is far from the truth. Did you read about the Canadians or all the civilians dead now? War is hell....its opened up to a fuller scale attack now by both sides.

And....before you ask.... I would fight with the Israels if it comes to that though I expect you to drive us there.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Skitterpop

Skip ... this is far from the truth. Did you read about the Canadians or all the civilians dead now? War is hell....its opened up to a fuller scale attack now by both sides.

This is precisely the problem.

It's not that Israel is accused of intentionally targetting civilians, but rather that they consistantly over apply force causing the civilian deaths regardless.

The incident a few years ago where the IDF shot a live tank round into a peaceful Palestenian demonstration is a perfect example.

One thing I don't think Skippy or a lot like him understand is how much of the problem with terrorisim at the root has to do with humiliation inspired rage, rather than religious fanaticisim...

-spence

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by Skitterpop

Skip ... this is far from the truth. Did you read about the Canadians or all the civilians dead now? War is hell....its opened up to a fuller scale attack now by both sides.

And....before you ask.... I would fight with the Israels if it comes to that though I expect you to drive us there.

Israel does NOT go after civilians as thier primary targets you idiots! Sure civilians are killed by accident and that sucks. But they are NOT the primary targets. Now the other side in this conflict, go after civilians as thier primary targets. You got that now? Or this still hard for you to understand?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Israel does NOT go after civilians as thier primary targets you idiots! Sure civilians are killed by accident and that sucks. But they are NOT the primary targets. Now the other side in this conflict, go after civilians as thier primary targets. You got that now? Or this still hard for you to understand?

Skippy, you're missing the point.

It doesn't matter, who's targeting what.

-spence

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

Skippy, you're missing the point.

It doesn't matter, who's targeting what.

-spence

Spence I'm sure you want to clarify that statement because it could lead one to assume that it is an attempt at legitmizing the targeting of unmarmed, innocent civilians. (They killed civilians by mistake so it's okay for us to kill them on purpose). Collateral damage which Israel is guilty of is bad enough without the purposeful intent of killing civilians which Hizbollah is guilty of. Thats probably why it's called Terrorism.

[chris L]

well then dont start flushing them John . I will go from like 5000 posts to 10 .

IM THE COMIC RELIEF !

[JohnR]

Damn - how the hell did you get to 5000 posts ??

[Mike P]

Collateral damage is inevitable when a gang of cowards deliberately use civilian areas as staging grounds for their attacks.

You can't expect any country to sit there and take it forever.

[Skitterpop]

this is a test for everyone...who is he and what is his history?

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

Spence I'm sure you want to clarify that statement because it could lead one to assume that it is an attempt at legitmizing the targeting of unmarmed, innocent civilians. (They killed civilians by mistake so it's okay for us to kill them on purpose). Collateral damage which Israel is guilty of is bad enough without the purposeful intent of killing civilians which Hizbollah is guilty of. Thats probably why it's called Terrorism.

The statement is pretty clear...the point being, it's not like Palestenian non-militants are saying "well, my son did die while walking to school between checkpoints 7 and 8, but the Israelis were aiming those rockets at the terrorists down the street, so I guess it was just Allah's will"...

The Israelis are certainly guilty of dehumanizing the Palestenians in an effort to provide security, but let's be honest...also wear them down. Hence my comments about humiliation and rage.

I don't think they should shoulder the blame though, as I've stated previously, the problem is much larger than the two parties and will require a solution that's beyond both.

-spence

[Skitterpop]

Arab-Israeli wars

A day after the declaration of independence of the State of Israel, armies of five Arab countries, Egypt, Syria, Transjordan, Lebanon and Iraq, invaded Israel. This marked the beginning of the War of Independence. Arab states have jointly waged four full scale wars against Israel:

• 1948 War of Independence
• 1956 Sinai War
• 1967 Six Day War
• 1973 Yom Kippur War

Despite the numerical superiority of the Arab armies, Israel defended itself each time and won. After each war Israeli army withdrew from most of the areas it captured (see maps). This is unprecedented in World history and shows Israel's willingness to reach peace even at the risk of fighting for its very existence each time anew.

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Israel does NOT go after civilians as thier primary targets you idiots! Sure civilians are killed by accident and that sucks. But they are NOT the primary targets. Now the other side in this conflict, go after civilians as thier primary targets. You got that now? Or this still hard for you to understand?

I cannot believe your ignorance.... do you have any clue how far off you are???? Do you get paid to incite people?

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by Skitterpop

I cannot believe your ignorance.... do you have any clue how far off you are???? Do you get paid to incite people?

Okay enlighten us. On what point is Skip ignorant?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

Okay enlighten us. On what point is Skip ignorant?

The one where he calls everyone Idiots......Earlier everyone was a Moron.

I just wish he would make up his mind......just like those Hippy Liberals...always Flip-Floppin

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

Okay enlighten us. On what point is Skip ignorant?

All of them Are you in the matrix to?

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by Skitterpop

All of them Are you in the matrix to?

Hmm...I guess if believing fighting back against Terrorism is the right thing to do, and if thinkiing that the destruction of Hizbollah and Hamas is a pretty cool thing, than yes I'm in the Matrix.

[stormfish]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Israel does NOT go after civilians as thier primary targets you idiots! Sure civilians are killed by accident and that sucks. But they are NOT the primary targets. Now the other side in this conflict, go after civilians as thier primary targets. You got that now? Or this still hard for you to understand?

1. Isreal has targeted areas.
2. They know there are civilians near the targets.
3. They know they're are going to blow up civilains to reach their targets.
4. They blow up their targets.
5. No Hezbullah...
6. Isreal calls it an accident.

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by Skitterpop

And....before you ask.... I would fight with the Israels if it comes to that though I expect you to drive us there.

Now this is refreshing, finally your coming around