Israel and World War III part four

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by stormfish

Strapped with bombs I believe... Terrorist flying airplanes into buildings I do not. 9/11 isn't enough evidence that it was the works of terrorists. Too hard to this day to believe.

Dude, your retarded! I'm sure Mike P will go on another rampage and pull my post but i dont care. I cant believe someone can be such a moron and believe 9/11 was an inside job. You belong in the nut house!!

[stormfish]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Dude, your retarded!

Wow that's intellectually refreshing...

I mean it's too fishy and I don't mean the ones that swim to believe that the black box in the planes all got destroyed but through all that destruction a terrorist passport of a man who's still alive survived unscaved.

Who do you think were in the planes? Any bodies found? Any DNA samples found? Where's the proof of who did it? Tell me Skip if I'm so retarded... Enlighten me : " "

BTW, it's "you're" not your

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by stormfish

Wow that's intellectually refreshing...

I mean it's too fishy and I don't mean the ones that swim to believe that the black box in the planes all got destroyed but through all that destruction a terrorist passport of a man who's still alive survived unscaved.

Who do you think was in the planes? Any bodies found? Any DNA samples found? Where's the proof of who did it? Tell me Skip if I'm so retarded... Enlighten me : " "

HAHAHA your a total nutcase! Sorry but i dont waste my time talking to complete wackos.... At least Spence has some good suggestions and is well informed (even though i dissagree with him lots!) but you my good friend, have some serious mental problems if you believe 9/11 was carried by the US Goverment, or whatever the hell you believe. get lost and take your wacko theries with you.

[Skip N]

Spence, i need your help, i am totally confused with what you want to to with these terroists. I mean obviosly we can't sit back and do nothing or we'll get wacked again, and your saying we can't go after them because it will breed more hatred in the radical muslim world. And we certainly can't talk and reason with these nut cases. So what the hell is your plan???

[stormfish]

Well who's is nutty enough to rig presidential votes?

[stormfish]

Rather be thinking like a nutcase than one who is ignorant. I bet you think there still weapons of mass destruction in Iraq to be found don't you?

[Skitterpop]

have been my dreams of late..........

[spence]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Spence, i need your help, i am totally confused with what you want to to with these terroists. I mean obviosly we can't sit back and do nothing or we'll get wacked again, and your saying we can't go after them because it will breed more hatred in the radical muslim world. And we certainly can't talk and reason with these nut cases. So what the hell is your plan???

If you read a thing I posted you'd know my plan

I've never said we can't go after them...quite the opposite, there is a time and a place for some serious bloodletting.

But the reality is, we must be very careful of when and where as our actions regardless of intention can have negative impact.

To date, our actions have not been viewed as a Nation defending itsself from radical Islam. We are being percieved as Imperialists, not because they view Americans as bad, but because of our behavior.

And guys, quit the silly stuff...there's some good conversation in this thread

Skitter...that cartoon is most excellent

-spence

[stormfish]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Spence, i need your help, i am totally confused with what you want to to with these terroists. I mean obviosly we can't sit back and do nothing or we'll get wacked again, and your saying we can't go after them because it will breed more hatred in the radical muslim world. And we certainly can't talk and reason with these nut cases. So what the hell is your plan???

Another thing, I believe when the issue of weapons of mass destruction around and there was threads for it, you were the one screaming like around about weapons of mass D in Iraq. So where are they now Skippy? Now who feels like a nutcase... You get out!

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by stormfish

Another thing, I believe when the issue of weapons of mass destruction around and there was threads for it, you were the one screaming like around about weapons of mass D in Iraq. So where are they now Skippy? Now who feels like a nutcase... You get out!

I know you don't want to go down the iraq and WMD road, its a known fact that Iraq had WMD's and used them to slaughter the kurds. And its a fact that countries such as Britan, Russia and Israel to name a few, believed just like the US did, that Iraq was still producing or had plans to produce more WMD's. Oh yeah, and that pre dates George W. too. So don't go to the Bush lied card.

Please dispute these facts if you'd like, but you really cant.

have a wonderful day

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by Skip N

I know you don't want to go down the iraq and WMD road, its a known fact that Iraq had WMD's and used them to slaughter the kurds. And its a fact that countries such as Britan, Russia and Israel to name a few, believed just like the US did, that Iraq was still producing or had plans to produce more WMD's. Oh yeah, and that pre dates George W. too. So don't go to the Bush lied card.

Please dispute these facts if you'd like, but you really cant.

have a wonderful day

This is so wrong....sorry Skip.

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by Skitterpop

This is so wrong....sorry Skip.

Please share with us whats wrong? everything i mentioned really can't be disputed. But please try....

The kurds were never gassed?

Those countries didnt have the same opinion on iraq and WMD's? During the Clinton years too?

Clinton and other Dems during the Clinton years weren't saying Iraq was a threat?

Please tell us YOUR version of these known facts

[spence]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Please share with us whats wrong? everything i mentioned really can't be disputed. But please try....

Yes, Skipper...it's true that Iraq had WMD, 15 years ago

Everything else you said is taken out of context and therefore not a fact in the context you seem to be assuming. I could elaborate further...but you don't really seem to want to learn

-spence

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Please share with us whats wrong? everything i mentioned really can't be disputed. But please try....

The kurds were never gassed?

Those countries didnt have the same opinion on iraq and WMD's? During the Clinton years too?

Clinton and other Dems during the Clinton years weren't saying Iraq was a threat?

Please tell us YOUR version of these known facts

I will not have a discussion of any weight with you until you study more. Now hit the books

[stormfish]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Please share with us whats wrong? everything i mentioned really can't be disputed. But please try....

The kurds were never gassed?

Those countries didnt have the same opinion on iraq and WMD's? During the Clinton years too?

Clinton and other Dems during the Clinton years weren't saying Iraq was a threat?

Please tell us YOUR version of these known facts

The Kurds if I'm mistaken are Sunni Muslims and are nomads that inhabit the northern region of Iraq and mountainous areas throughout the Middle east. Like any other nomads, I believe they were quite the nuisance to the Arab World. Who cares about them?

Clinton's interest in Iraq was to have the UN inspect Iraq for WMD. Sadamn played his little game and Clinton tossed him some air strikes until Sadamn complied. Bush on the other hand invaded Iraq and succeeded in overthrowing the tyrant. It's a bit harsh isn't it? Bush just approached the situation the 'wrong' way.

What triggered the war? I don't believe it was WMD. It was the fact that Sadamn began to sell Iraq's oil in Euros instead of Dollars. His motive was to appreciate the Euro over the Dollar. Did it suceed? The Euro is currently .34 over the dollar. Iraq continues to sell oil in the Euro today.

This is the reason we haven't left Iraq today. Bush wants Iraq to have a steady government in hopes to influence Iraq to sell oil in US Dollars again. Big picture in the long run... Is it worth it? Nope! In Economics, governement intervention (that includes war) will boost GNP in the short run. But as in consuming alcohol, the alcohol is going to catch up to you if consumed too much. What does that mean? An economical hangover!

I don't believe we should intervene in Iraq or any other nation until we sort out our economical woes. Yes we're trillions of trillions in the hole!

Enjoy Skippy!

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by stormfish

Another thing, I believe when the issue of weapons of mass destruction around and there was threads for it, you were the one screaming like around about weapons of mass D in Iraq. So where are they now Skippy? Now who feels like a nutcase... You get out!

The fact is there were WMD in Iraq maybe still are. The big question as you said is "Where are they now"? And if you think anyone who believes that is a nutcase than you are refering to just about every intelligence agency, world leader, former Presidents, Presidential Candidates, Congressmen, Senators etc etc. I'm sure you can find someone who will deny they ever existed but they will also claim they were abducted by aliens.