THE STRIPER CUP LEADER BOARD - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Mr. Sandman · 08-08-2006, 10:22 AM

I gave you a heads up about this. You don't stand a chance in hell in winning against these guys. Yes, they are all comm fishermen and all are boat fish except for a 46 from the surf. They never even started to fish until the comm season started, that is the only reason you made it on the board. They are landing more 40#+ fish that you never see because they already weighed one in for the week.

There is no way a surfcaster taking two fish can compete against a serious comm fishermen with bait in a boat taking 30. end of story. You're burnt toast. IMO this contest should not allow comm fishermen to compete OR should have a separate catagory just for fisherment with comm lic's (whether you use it or not)

BTW, what what ever happended to the Bill Major matter? Is he still on the board? Speaking of questionable comm fishing ethics, the constable nailed another guy taking 22 bass on a monday out here.

BTW if your B&T faxes in the slips you will get the same day deal. Also, I know SM is very careful about doing anything that even appears questionable. Anyone who works at the shop has their fish wieghted in at Larrys B&T to avoid any confilct. The other comm fishermen just use him as a weigh station like anyone else. He faxes in the slips within minutes after they are weighed in. They don't even bother with anything under 40.

They are just fish catching machines. If OTW thinks it is OK for comms to compete with recs...this is what is going to happen.

eelman · 08-08-2006, 10:55 AM

Seems to me most here are losing track of the fact that this is not a "Surf only" Tournement...It has nothing to do with "dont stand a chance" it always was a boat and surf tourney. In my opinion comm. or not, you still have to catch the big fish and those guys are. Did anyone think that none of these clubs had boat fisherman?

"here is no way a surfcaster taking two fish can compete against a serious comm fishermen with bait in a boat taking 30. end of story. You're burnt toast. IMO this contest should not allow comm fishermen to compete OR should have a separate catagory just for fisherment with comm lic's (whether you use it or not)"

Again its both boat and shore, which ever club wins...I say congrats...being a comm. does not gurantee a take of large.

Be happy with good personall results, with the amount of fisherman in this tourney, thats all you can hope for....or if its "surf" you want start looking at the surf only catagorys etc....and isnt SB for both shore and boat guys?? or is SB only competing on a shore level??

Didnt goose get a nice bass from a boat? and weigh it in for SB?

comms, still have to fish like anyone else, I am sure there is a fair share of holding fish for another week in the surf also.....

Just holding a lic, doesnt make you a better fisherman, jezzz half of MA holds a lic... I see nothing wrong with them weighing in there big fish if it was caught legally, even if they fished there "off" days whats the diff?? they still know where the fish are ?

Guy caught a nice fish but he is a comm, "no good"!

Guy catches alot of fish..."he is cheating"

Guy weighs in a 40 two weeks in a row..."must have bought them"

Nothing would make anyone happy with this tourney......A nice fish is a nice fish regardless a hook and a line caught it the fish doesnt care who is on the other end or wht type of lic. he holds.......

In my club "RISAA" The boat guys destroyed me and Steve ......we could care less....these guys dont have comm lic. however they catch the same amount of bass as any comm and basically have 20 to 30 fish nights and release most fish but keep there large, whats the diff?

Slingah · 08-08-2006, 11:07 AM

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Again its both boat and shore, which ever club wins...I say congrats...being a comm. does not gurantee a take of large.

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no it doesnt....but sure stand a way better chance
I got no problem with the boat thing.....just the commercial thing
congrats is right to who ever wins....THIS year
I'll bet they change it next year......
TIGHT LINES to ALL

eelman · 08-08-2006, 11:09 AM

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no it doesnt....but sure stand a way better chance
I got no problem with the boat thing.....just the commercial thing
congrats is right to who ever wins....THIS year
I'll bet they change it next year......
TIGHT LINES to ALL

Again, I ask why?? ? why do they suddenly become better fisherman because they hold a comm lic???? I know plenty of recs who catch the same number of fish each day and toss em back?? Should Charter captains be banned also??

There are guys in my club RISAA Who cant catch fish in a barrell yet on occasion win in the boat division some years ....Why? because they charter well known bass slayers (charter capts) and basically get put on a good fish...should they be disqalified from the tourney? because they hired" a charter captain? does that count as basically buying there fish??

Slingah · 08-08-2006, 11:17 AM

comm = pick of 30
rec = can keep 2......if you keep 2 that you think are large and then catch bigger....tough luck
does not seem fair to me....but what do I know...

eelman · 08-08-2006, 11:21 AM

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comm = pick of 30
rec = can keep 2......if you keep 2 that you think are large and then catch bigger....tough luck
does not seem fair to me....but what do I know...

Still have to catch 30........thats easier said than done and most of there 30 fish catch is 34 to 36 inch fish I dont think there catching 30-50lb bass...

You really think some rec out there way off shore doesnt cull now and then?? thats naive ....

Slingah · 08-08-2006, 11:37 AM

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Still have to catch 30........thats easier said than done and most of there 30 fish catch is 34 to 36 inch fish I dont think there catching 30-50lb bass...

You really think some rec out there way off shore doesnt cull now and then?? thats naive ....

yup...comm's do....but comm's can keep 30.....
Im sure some rec's cull....I am not naive to that....breaking the law should not even be an argument for this discussion

Mr. Sandman · 08-08-2006, 11:45 AM

[QUOTE=#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&]Still have to catch 30........thats easier said than done and most of there 30 fish catch is 34 to 36 inch fish I dont think there catching 30-50lb bass...[QUOTE]

You are misinformed.

inTHERAPY · 08-08-2006, 12:25 PM

I had a big post but.....let's all just fish and have fun

Back Beach · 08-08-2006, 12:34 PM

"Every scout in the NHL is out there tonight, with contracts in their pockets, and they're looking for talent. For winners. OOOOOOOOOH. All my years of publicity. Of the fashion shows and radiothons for nothing... They come here tonight... to scout the Chiefs... the toughest team in the Federal League. Not this. Buncha... pussies."

Toughen up ladies. No excuses.

eelman · 08-08-2006, 12:43 PM

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"Every scout in the NHL is out there tonight, with contracts in their pockets, and they're looking for talent. For winners. OOOOOOOOOH. All my years of publicity. Of the fashion shows and radiothons for nothing... They come here tonight... to scout the Chiefs... the toughest team in the Federal League. Not this. Buncha... pussies."

Toughen up ladies.

Great Post ! homerun.........and thats the ballgame............

bart · 08-08-2006, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Back Beach

"Every scout in the NHL is out there tonight, with contracts in their pockets, and they're looking for talent. For winners. OOOOOOOOOH. All my years of publicity. Of the fashion shows and radiothons for nothing... They come here tonight... to scout the Chiefs... the toughest team in the Federal League. Not this. Buncha... pussies."

Toughen up ladies. No excuses.

real subtle mike. lmao

JohnR · 08-08-2006, 02:14 PM

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It is all whinning and jealousy...wa...wa...wa...I dont stand a chance....no fair...sounds like a bunch of 5 year olds in a schoolyard, go fishing and hope for the best..

It is not all whining and jealousy, it is called putting down a somewhat level playing field so everyone gets to play by the same rules. There is quantifiable advantage - when played to the letter of the law - to the commercial rod & reel angler in this tournament. It is currently allowed in the rules by OTW, and no reason to change it mid stream for this season. But it is fact that it favors the commercial angler during this tournament. It is fact that it is not a level playing field for all anglers in this tourney. I'm not against commercial fishing for bass (not very pro either - just don't think that debate is the problem) - this is not a rec -v- comm thing and this is not a boat -v- surf thing. It is a numbers game and the number potential during a day of fishing is staggered in the comm bass fisher's favor.

Jealousy has absolutely nothing to do with this.