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Old 08-13-2006, 08:52 PM   #1
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i will try the 6 inch pull off to make sure things are good, and i think when i get a chance i am going to make the switch back over to fireline, i never had these kind of problems, but on the other hand i was never useing this heavy of line, max of 20lb. now i have 40lb and changed brands....

well on a positive, i have never caught anything at the maratime academy and before loosing any gear i was able to pull in a 24"schoolie on a spoon. so i guess it was a learning experience on all fronts...

i thank you all for your info...


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Old 08-13-2006, 09:11 PM   #2
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There are 2 reasons why u get the so called windknots.One is the spool is overfilled.An the second is the line is laying on the spool too soft.
If the spool is overfilled the line will dig slightly when u lay into a cast an pull the line below it off the spool in coils that donot unravel on there own.these coils are what make the knots.
When using some lures that have little resistance on the retrive
like needles or some metals.U will notice the line wraps on the spool
softer than i might normally.
When u cast the line will dig in from the weight of the lure an the force of the cast.This digging into the soft line will cause the coils to pull out from underneath again.Reeling up fast or with some tension only fixes the problem for one cast.
The best thing u can do is take some line off.I know its hard to do cause it is expensive an u hate to lose any line an ur distance may suffer some.But it is usually the only thing to fix the problem.I always have the tackle shop put the line on the reel.as when u reel in on urself when u try to make it tight it has a tendencey of pulling up towards the top of the spool.So u end up with line on the spool that is narrow on the bottom an fatter towards the lip.This will also give ya trouble.

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Old 08-13-2006, 09:14 PM   #3
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You are correct NIB, but a possible third reason.. sticky line roller.. don't ask why I know
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Old 08-14-2006, 03:53 PM   #4
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You are correct NIB, but a possible third reason.. sticky line roller.. don't ask why I know
4 th reason .maybe . My troubles have been with conventional . I just recently gone back to spinning last couple of years (braid), Before that ,,To many years to count ,most all my fishing was conventional . I was taught to wind my line on the spool as level as possible (mono) and that would improve your next cast . I think i wind the braid to neat ,, and some have suggested I cross it over itself more,, instead of laying it next to itself .. old habits are hard to break and can't afford to keep filling up and cutting it off ,,, learning curve $$$$$

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Old 08-14-2006, 04:09 PM   #5
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I am not sure about Shimano Baitrunners but the Shimano Stradics that I have comes with a little bag of plastic spacers. Most spinning reels do. The Stradic out of the box is set up for mono and the issues of overlaps would happen. Braid would never lay evenly until I added one or two of the space washers. Once I added the washers the overlap problem went away and I can see the braid lay evenly on the spool. Occasionaly when casting into the wind with lite plugs it can overlap. Most of the time it's okay.

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4 th reason .maybe . My troubles have been with conventional . I just recently gone back to spinning last couple of years (braid), Before that ,,To many years to count ,most all my fishing was conventional . I was taught to wind my line on the spool as level as possible (mono) and that would improve your next cast . I think i wind the braid to neat ,, and some have suggested I cross it over itself more,, instead of laying it next to itself .. old habits are hard to break and can't afford to keep filling up and cutting it off ,,, learning curve $$$$$

Good point Tagger.
I do this on my newells wide crosses with the tumb.makes more of a crossing pettern an keeps the line from digging in as much.Level winds are not really any good with braids under 50 lbs for this reason.the neat windings of the level wind allow for the braid to dig in pretty deep when a lot of pressure is applied to the line like when hung up.

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