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Old 08-15-2006, 04:36 PM   #31
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Been considering a switch from mono to braid but keep hearing stories like this and keep asking myself if it's worth the trouble. So far, it seems the answer is,,, probably not.
If you guys are willing to endure all this, what the jimminy am I missing? I've no problems at all with the mono. Why would one bother?
Not trying to be argumentative, just wondering why bother?

Getting set up with a conventional and am seriously considering braid (PP). seems like braid is designed with a tilt towards conventional more than spinning,,,,, but couldbe wrong.
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:00 PM   #32
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Been considering a switch from mono to braid but keep hearing stories like this and keep asking myself if it's worth the trouble. So far, it seems the answer is,,, probably not.
If you guys are willing to endure all this, what the jimminy am I missing? I've no problems at all with the mono. Why would one bother?
Not trying to be argumentative, just wondering why bother?

Getting set up with a conventional and am seriously considering braid (PP). seems like braid is designed with a tilt towards conventional more than spinning,,,,, but couldbe wrong.
What say you?
Why.. Ok talking spinning ..1 braid has no memory like mono so it goes straight out thru the guides (no choking).. Huge atvantage in casting distance ,fishing heavier pound test ,while using lures that are very light.(bomber types).. 2. the feel ... no strech .. you can feel the hits and every little viration like the fish is in your hands. I have absolutely no problem with these lines on spinning gear and in fact love it .. Only draw back to these high tech lines is fishing rocks ..Under tension (fish) there are no see saw battles on the rocks .. line breaks quite easily . Mono still king of the rock pile .

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Old 08-15-2006, 07:02 PM   #33
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Why.. Ok talking spinning ..1 braid has no memory like mono so it goes straight out thru the guides (no choking).. Huge atvantage in casting distance ,fishing heavier pound test ,while using lures that are very light.(bomber types).. 2. the feel ... no strech .. you can feel the hits and every little viration like the fish is in your hands. I have absolutely no problem with these lines on spinning gear and in fact love it .. Only draw back to these high tech lines is fishing rocks ..Under tension (fish) there are no see saw battles on the rocks .. line breaks quite easily . Mono still king of the rock pile .
Like Eddie said. Feeling the plug working is a real plus.

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Old 08-15-2006, 07:39 PM   #34
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I can feel a fish pass gas with braid.
I primarily use 30 lb fireline around rocks an I have had good success with the abraision factor.

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Old 08-15-2006, 07:54 PM   #35
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I can feel a fish pass gas with braid.
I primarily use 30 lb fireline around rocks an I have had good success with the abraision factor.
What kind of rocks ? When you fall down do you get up covered in blood and razor cuts ? Or like canal rocks covered in thick weed resembling big green pillows ?

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Old 08-15-2006, 08:18 PM   #36
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Are you using a 4500 baitrunner? I have 3 of them and they do tend to have some issues with pp braid. I have multiple spools for each of them and pp does foul up far more on this reel then other shimanos. IMO The reason is that 4500 baitrunners do NOT have the "super slow ossillation" of the spool that their other reels do. It works, but not as well as the stratic and stella types. With these reels you can actaully tune the spool to lay the line on there in a certain fashion that is braid friendly and the spools lays the line on there nice and slow (like rope on a spool, instead of up and down real fast) If this is your problem you might try another braid or switch to mono...or buy another reel that works with braid. (fireline may work better...but it is not as thin as PP)
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Old 08-15-2006, 08:53 PM   #37
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What kind of rocks ? When you fall down do you get up covered in blood and razor cuts ? Or like canal rocks covered in thick weed resembling big green pillows ?
Any kind, anywhere. Jamestown (Beavertail), Newport, Narragansett, Westerly, Block you name it. I have extreme confidence in this stuff, I have landed some very nice fish in some very boney areas.
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Old 08-15-2006, 08:58 PM   #38
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What kind of rocks ? When you fall down do you get up covered in blood and razor cuts ? Or like canal rocks covered in thick weed resembling big green pillows ?
I fish em all Eddie.I have to show a pic of my buddies leg when he slid down along side a rock with shorts on.I've done the same thing,leg blows up an u use gallons of peroxide to keep it kleen.The kinda rocks u put ur hand on an don't slide it at all an u still get cut.Then there are pilings,steel bridge abutments.icebreakers,bulkheads,the whole nine yds.u just gotta lighten up when u feel the pressure or it's over Johnnee.I also change my fireline like most people change mono.i like it new an fresh.it's really tough when new it will break 50lb leader when new 2 days later it won't.whats that tell ya.when it gets grey i thro it away.This spring I changed or flipped it 2 0r 3 times..I usually put on around 250 yds an flip it then toss it.I don't wait for it to fail.i buy it in 1000 yd spools i will use At least one per yr.>Ya it's probably overkill.I don't like taking chances.

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Old 08-15-2006, 09:11 PM   #39
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Are you using a 4500 baitrunner? I have 3 of them and they do tend to have some issues with pp braid. I have multiple spools for each of them and pp does foul up far more on this reel then other shimanos. IMO The reason is that 4500 baitrunners do NOT have the "super slow ossillation" of the spool that their other reels do. It works, but not as well as the stratic and stella types. With these reels you can actaully tune the spool to lay the line on there in a certain fashion that is braid friendly and the spools lays the line on there nice and slow (like rope on a spool, instead of up and down real fast) If this is your problem you might try another braid or switch to mono...or buy another reel that works with braid. (fireline may work better...but it is not as thin as PP)

I wonder how the "ossilation" on my 706z is.It does have a nice big an narrow spool.
I bet the folks over at shimano made that word up.

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