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Old 08-20-2006, 08:49 AM   #12
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It's not the same wire in BM.The wire is thinner an softer.Way softer.
The swivels are a joke.Not sure what happened but a few yrs ago they just started failing.Maybe the same reason the Hooks are garbage.Musso saw the difference 3 yrs ago an changed out to spro's.With today's no strech braid u need tougher hardware.It is NOT a PLOY.Yrs ago the hooks where better AND guys mostly used soft action glass rods with MONO.I am not making this stuff up I have seen it happen an had it happen to me.Of course we copy STAN's design's He was the Best a true Pioneer.What new design has the new regieme of gibbs come up with the 3 oz Darter.what a joke.Here's a thought.Go Back 35 yrs.
What do u think Stan Would say..I could just see him when the hooks on a Polaris straighten out.Then they sink after a 1/2 hr.He wouldn't use there crap.He would have to buy bigger dumpsters.
Tony I luv ya but without knowing the whole story your tirade here is way out of line. Gibbs makes a goog plug so does John but if we want to speak the truth here then so be it. Gibbs has on hand about between 9 and 10 thousand plugs in stock at all times. Done and ready for shipment, Someone else does not and can't ship regurlarly when customers demand needles and such, he is always up against the wall. He works 80 hours a week and is still behind and needs to hire competent help to help him out or he is gonna burn out fast and I think he is halfway there. I would hate to see that happen as that would be the end of HABS PLUGS!He makes an awesome plug and decidedly has the needlefish market in his grasp but if shops can't get them then what are they to do? VMC CANNOT SHIP in the numbers and with the reliability that Mustad, who is made in the USA still, can, Never has been able too and thats a fact, very fragmented. Shop owners will tell you the same.

Gibbs uses the same wire supplier that stan did and uses sugar pine at 8% moisture content and no knots which is very expensive. The Gibbs guys bought and run the company so that it would not go out of business, they will tell you that.

And lastly if you can come up with a truely "original" design in a plug these days I will blow you on YOUR town hall steps in NJ! It's all been done before and there ain't one plug maker out there that doesn't have problems in production or quality or components in way way shape or form. Reality what a concept heh?

Why even try.........
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