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09-04-2006, 04:06 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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Fishing with guys who use eels and sluggos makes me a better plug fisherman. From the eel guys I've learned the fish are often there, even if I'm not getting them. I now fish spots harder and with more persistence, changing plugs more often. Likewise, they catch fish in close while most of my hits come out far. Means I'm passing over lots of fish. So I start out with shorter casts. Their offering smells better than mine, so I try scents. Once in a while I do better than them, so I feel like a huge success........ until the next time we fish.
Likewise the sluggo guys. The speed with which they retrieve goes against everything I ever thought you should do, but obviously works. So I try different retrieves, and plugs with more aggressive actions than I used to use. And try to build stuff that acts like a sluggo. I expect it to pay off. Their lures cast like %$%$%$%$ and smell even worse, knowing it gives me confidence my plugs aren't so bad. When I get it right, I'm a big shot. When I don't, I've got an excuse.
Works for me.
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09-04-2006, 04:28 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,543
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So... I digress.....the question....
what plugs would be in your bag on cutty this weekend????
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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09-04-2006, 04:50 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: in a structure with a roof
Posts: 6,049
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im going to try night crawlers and meal worms on high low rigs .
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09-04-2006, 06:37 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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Ross, I put alot of needles (all sizes), Spooks, swimmers and tins, slug-gos, teasers, Worm Potion
All plugs are 2 tone because of the bright moon. Eels and a couple of Eelbobs.
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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09-04-2006, 09:14 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: MA/RI
Posts: 2,411
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In my observation there are surfcasters that have alot invested in plugs along with memoriable experiences. It would be difficult to ask them to leave their plugs at home and only use eels or sluggos even if they knew that they produce more fish.
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09-05-2006, 08:15 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
Posts: 5,451
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When for a number of years I did nothing but saltwater flyfish I ran the Osterville Anglers Club Educational series with my good friend Capt Ron Murphy, charterboat "Stray Cat" outa Hyannis. I put together a 8 week program of how to get started to advance techniques each year with many, many notable fishermen, scientists, professors etc. I was quite proud of the series over the number of years it ran. Later Gene Bourque and my self did the same for Redington Rod Company. Each year someone would invariably ask the question "How can I catch big bass consistently", I would answer in kind, well for starters you can put away all your fly rods and get a ten foot conventional rod and a big sled dog of an eel", "that's how to get big bass consistently" I know what a live eel can do. I still think getting to get a fish to take a plug is wayyyyy more rewarding.
There was no direct insult, you read to much into it I merely stated that eels, like EarthGirls, are easy. Minimal tackle, minimal care, and once the technique is picked, which is quickly done, the eel does the rest.
I know, I fished nothing but for years and caught many many big fish that way. Stifftip did a 1000 pounds one night back when on Monomoy with eels. But you know what I remember most about eel fishing? It was one night years back with Eric LaFleur, we were drifting eels in Barnstable Harbor at night and had been doing very well. Numbskull had given me a jointed eel he made, (looks just like a Tattoo eel, almost identical the difference being Numbskull made this one ten years ago.) I took that jointed eel plug out snapped it on and the fish totally disregarded the eels for the rest of the night and I croaked them on that plug while Eric just watched. That was my most memorable eel fishing experience.
If you were offended it was purely coincidental, I am merely stating fact and as you so admire the eel and it's fish catching abilities, so do I believe that plug fishing is the most rewarding and demanding of a fishermans knowledge.
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Why even try.........
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09-05-2006, 08:26 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Southern NH
Posts: 3,781
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If no fisher is present:
And an eel swims alone and a bass eats it does anyone hear it?
D.T. Susuki
some great stuff here  Thank you
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