Democrat or Republican . . .

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

Now that's just silly...

The rich do pay their fair share, but without a progressive system there would be no end workers (i.e. middle class) to create the value accumulation necessary to drive their ability to fund the tax base.

Put in more simple terms, the rich do indeed stand on the backs of the middle class.

In other words "trickle down" is a critical component to our system, but just as important is "trickle up"!

The problem isn't that the wealthy pay too much in taxes, it's just that the money is used so inefficiently the burden as a whole is greater on the entire population.

To me this has little to do with Democrat vs Republican, as I can name countless instances where neither party actually behaves like you might expect.

-spence

Think maybe for once you could try to respect someones opinion without pronouncing it: Silly, Stupid, or idiotic?

Elitism

Elitism is a belief or attitude that the people who are considered to be the elite — a selected group of persons whose personal abilities, wealth, specialised training or experience, or other attributes place them at the top of any field (especially politics and business, but see below) — are the people whose views on a matter are to be taken the most seriously, or that these are persons whose views should be regarded as carrying the most weight, or, more simply, these people are best fit to govern. Elitism may also be used to convey a less rational and more purely arrogant sense of entitlement to better treatment owing to wealth, social standing, etc.

Stemming mostly from this usage, elitism has highly negative connotations and is often used pejoratively as conveying arrogance or disregard for the general non-elite public. In its political and sociological sense, elitism sees an elite as occupying a special position of authority or privilege in a group, set apart from the majority of people without the selected abilities or attributes.

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

Think maybe for once you could try to respect someones opinion without pronouncing it: Silly, Stupid, or idiotic?

Elitism

Elitism is a belief or attitude that the people who are considered to be the elite — a selected group of persons whose personal abilities, wealth, specialised training or experience, or other attributes place them at the top of any field (especially politics and business, but see below) — are the people whose views on a matter are to be taken the most seriously, or that these are persons whose views should be regarded as carrying the most weight, or, more simply, these people are best fit to govern. Elitism may also be used to convey a less rational and more purely arrogant sense of entitlement to better treatment owing to wealth, social standing, etc.

Stemming mostly from this usage, elitism has highly negative connotations and is often used pejoratively as conveying arrogance or disregard for the general non-elite public. In its political and sociological sense, elitism sees an elite as occupying a special position of authority or privilege in a group, set apart from the majority of people without the selected abilities or attributes.

You two brothers? I think you do your share of I`m right your a moron posts to.... I know I do

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

Think maybe for once you could try to respect someones opinion without pronouncing it: Silly, Stupid, or idiotic?

He was simply stating a quote, as in "it's been often said". I happen to think that's a silly quote, and offered some supporting comments as to why.

If I was an "elite", I simply would have dismissed him personally and moved on.

-spence

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

He was simply stating a quote, as in "it's been often said". I happen to think that's a silly quote, and offered some supporting comments as to why.

If I was an "elite", I simply would have dismissed him personally and moved on.

-spence

I never said you were an elite.

[BassyiusMaximus]

The only reason why I post this sort of thing is to see what you all think, being fishermen I'm sure we have views which may be unique when it comes to politics. Even though it is always dangerous ground, politics, along with religion, to discuss.

I see the television, fee television anyways as I cannot get myself to pay for tv, is chock full of ads for the Lt. Governor and the Governorship itself and I try my best to see who the best candidate is and whether they believe in what I believe in.

I like to believe I'm neutral/unenrolled and wait to see who promises what before I vote.

[spence]

Originally Posted by BassyiusMaximus

The only reason why I post this sort of thing is to see what you all think, being fishermen I'm sure we have views which may be unique when it comes to politics.

I agree, that's a very neat aspect of the boards...

I see the television, fee television anyways as I cannot get myself to pay for tv, is chock full of ads for the Lt. Governor and the Governorship itself and I try my best to see who the best candidate is and whether they believe in what I believe in.

Free TV is probably better anyway...the cable news channels are so stuffed with comment as news that unless you know which personalities are more objective it's a complete crap shoot for quality.

I like to believe I'm neutral/unenrolled and wait to see who promises what before I vote.

Which should be commended. There's way too much alignment with partisan views or manipulative campaigning messages.

-spence