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Old 09-27-2006, 06:39 AM   #1
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I think his wife said that.

Clinton may have lost his cool, but Monica blew his top!

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Old 09-27-2006, 06:47 AM   #2
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They ALL spin it their way but I can not stand it when he points his finger at the camera like we are all dumb kids and only he knows whats true and right as he lies to my face. I know most don't mind them lying to us so long as its what they want to hear and that my freinds is why they do it and can do it.

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Old 09-27-2006, 07:16 AM   #3
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The greatest credence goes to the men in the trenches who were there at the time.

Read the latter part of this interview.

Curiously, this is posted on CNN, a network hostile to Bush.

Former FBI agent: Clinton never approved a plan to kill bin Laden

(CNN) -- Amid rumors of Osama bin Laden's death from illness, former President Bill Clinton and the Bush administration argued this week over who did more to kill the al Qaeda leader before the September 11 attacks.

CNN's Tony Harris spoke with former FBI agent Dan Coleman about the finger-pointing between the two administrations. Coleman also weighed in on where he believes bin Laden is hiding and on the status of bin Laden's health.

HARRIS: [Pakistani] President Musharraf in his book says he thinks bin Laden is in east Afghanistan. [Afghan President] Karzai says he's probably in Pakistan. What do you make of the back and forth here?

COLEMAN: That's a bit of cross-blaming. The borders in that region are rather undefined, and I defy either one of them to say exactly where he is at any one point in time.

HARRIS: So, undefined because neither leader has control of those border areas at all?

COLEMAN: Afghanistan is basically still in anarchy. And Pakistan, the part of Pakistan in which bin Laden may or may not be located, is northwest frontier provinces which are basically reservations, tribal reservations. And the central government does not have a lot of control there.

HARRIS: What do you make of the deal between Pakistan and some of the tribal leaders in that sort of rugged, undefined area that you describe?

COLEMAN: Well, bin Laden has been on the loose for five years now. If they wanted the $25 million for him they would have turned him in already. So I suspect that's more internal politics in Pakistan.

HARRIS: So bin Laden is being sheltered?

COLEMAN: I believe so, yes.

HARRIS: Given your knowledge of how intelligence flows, what did you make of the French reporting over the weekend that bin Laden is either dead or is seriously ill?

COLEMAN: Well-off people with access with medicine and doctors don't die from typhoid. ... If you've got somebody there that can put an IV in your arm and get you the proper medicine, you'll survive. American soldiers in the field can catch typhoid just as easily as he can, but they don't die from it. If they're treated, they survive.

HARRIS: What do you give Clinton credit for in the hunt for Osama bin Laden and his attempts to disrupt al Qaeda?

COLEMAN: President Clinton is very careful in his comments. I was at least happy to see him get angry about something and at least try to fight back.

I doubt that anything he said was incorrect because he's too careful a man. But as far as I know, he may -- he approved the assassination of bin Laden, but he never approved a particular plan.


HARRIS: His claim is that he couldn't get the CIA and the FBI to agree on responsibility, for example, for the Cole attack and to launch countermeasures.

COLEMAN: I disagree with that.

HARRIS: He said he had a battle plan drawn up to go into Afghanistan, overthrow the Taliban, and launch a full-scale search for bin Laden.

COLEMAN: Well, he didn't do it.

HARRIS: Did you see evidence of a plan?

COLEMAN: Not at my level. No, sir.
HARRIS: So what do you make of his claim?

COLEMAN: He was saying that he made a very specific statement about getting a forward operating base in one of the former Soviet republics which he was not able to get. ... You don't need a forward base in one of the former Soviet republics to go in and do a quick operation.

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Old 09-27-2006, 07:28 AM   #4
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He is an egomaniac and he is clealry obsessed with his legacy. Any time he is called out on the carpet (see Lewinski, starr/impeachment/failing to catch Bin Laden) he lashes out with Howard Dean like emotion. I stumbled upon that interview and after a few minutes I was mesmerized at what a moonbat he looked like. Absolutely riveting tv. Chris Wallace was on Imus this morning and said Clinton's handelrs were screaming at the producers to turn off the cameras mid-interview. Also he was screaming in the hallway post interview at his staff for getting him in that situation.
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Old 09-27-2006, 07:47 AM   #5
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saw the moon-bat look

i noticed that too... but my gut instinct tells me.... that he's gonna die soon....
and that all the stress and humiliation have taken their toll...
i mean most president's turn grey right after their presidency....
but with bill....the stress is gonna take him in the night.

I think he knows it too...so he wanted to go out fighting for once...

there ain't no way in hell he wants to be first man.he'd rather die
.....and after being married to Hillary he most certainly wants too.
her running for president will be the hari kari move on him....twistin the knife.
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Old 09-27-2006, 08:52 AM   #6
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The greatest credence goes to the men in the trenches who were there at the time.

Read the latter part of this interview.

Curiously, this is posted on CNN, a network hostile to Bush.

Former FBI agent: Clinton never approved a plan to kill bin Laden

(CNN) -- Amid rumors of Osama bin Laden's death from illness, former President Bill Clinton and the Bush administration argued this week over who did more to kill the al Qaeda leader before the September 11 attacks.

CNN's Tony Harris spoke with former FBI agent Dan Coleman about the finger-pointing between the two administrations. Coleman also weighed in on where he believes bin Laden is hiding and on the status of bin Laden's health.

HARRIS: [Pakistani] President Musharraf in his book says he thinks bin Laden is in east Afghanistan. [Afghan President] Karzai says he's probably in Pakistan. What do you make of the back and forth here?

COLEMAN: That's a bit of cross-blaming. The borders in that region are rather undefined, and I defy either one of them to say exactly where he is at any one point in time.

HARRIS: So, undefined because neither leader has control of those border areas at all?

COLEMAN: Afghanistan is basically still in anarchy. And Pakistan, the part of Pakistan in which bin Laden may or may not be located, is northwest frontier provinces which are basically reservations, tribal reservations. And the central government does not have a lot of control there.

HARRIS: What do you make of the deal between Pakistan and some of the tribal leaders in that sort of rugged, undefined area that you describe?

COLEMAN: Well, bin Laden has been on the loose for five years now. If they wanted the $25 million for him they would have turned him in already. So I suspect that's more internal politics in Pakistan.

HARRIS: So bin Laden is being sheltered?

COLEMAN: I believe so, yes.

HARRIS: Given your knowledge of how intelligence flows, what did you make of the French reporting over the weekend that bin Laden is either dead or is seriously ill?

COLEMAN: Well-off people with access with medicine and doctors don't die from typhoid. ... If you've got somebody there that can put an IV in your arm and get you the proper medicine, you'll survive. American soldiers in the field can catch typhoid just as easily as he can, but they don't die from it. If they're treated, they survive.

HARRIS: What do you give Clinton credit for in the hunt for Osama bin Laden and his attempts to disrupt al Qaeda?

COLEMAN: President Clinton is very careful in his comments. I was at least happy to see him get angry about something and at least try to fight back.

I doubt that anything he said was incorrect because he's too careful a man. But as far as I know, he may -- he approved the assassination of bin Laden, but he never approved a particular plan.


HARRIS: His claim is that he couldn't get the CIA and the FBI to agree on responsibility, for example, for the Cole attack and to launch countermeasures.

COLEMAN: I disagree with that.

HARRIS: He said he had a battle plan drawn up to go into Afghanistan, overthrow the Taliban, and launch a full-scale search for bin Laden.

COLEMAN: Well, he didn't do it.

HARRIS: Did you see evidence of a plan?

COLEMAN: Not at my level. No, sir.
HARRIS: So what do you make of his claim?

COLEMAN: He was saying that he made a very specific statement about getting a forward operating base in one of the former Soviet republics which he was not able to get. ... You don't need a forward base in one of the former Soviet republics to go in and do a quick operation.

Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/...nna/index.html
I wouldn't trust CNN who's backed by Reuters who in proxy can sway propoganda in favor of the Bush Admin. Propoganda is what washes the mind... The NIE are facts!

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Old 09-27-2006, 06:10 PM   #7
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I think his wife said that.

Clinton may have lost his cool, but Monica blew his top!
Clinton's problem was that he always used the wrong head~!

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