Clinton lost his cool

[RIJIMMY]

Found on the wall of Dachau when it was liberated in 1944. It was written by the Protestant Clergyman Martin Niemuhler (Niemoller).
"When they came to get the Jews I didn't say anything because I wasn't one of them. When the Nazis came to get the Blacks I didn't say anything because I wasn't one of them. When they took the crippled, the mentally unstable and the insane away I didn't say anything. When they took the Catholics away I didn't say anything because I wasn't one of them. Now I can't say anything because they have come and taken me away."

[stormfish]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Found on the wall of Dachau when it was liberated in 1944. It was written by the Protestant Clergyman Martin Niemuhler (Niemoller).
"When they came to get the Jews I didn't say anything because I wasn't one of them. When the Nazis came to get the Blacks I didn't say anything because I wasn't one of them. When they took the crippled, the mentally unstable and the insane away I didn't say anything. When they took the Catholics away I didn't say anything because I wasn't one of them. Now I can't say anything because they have come and taken me away."

They only come for us if we anger them. Where we are at now we'll continue to give them reasons to come for us. As with the passing of history, foreign conflicts die over time. We either admit defeat and allow it to die over time or we nuke it as with Japan and allow it to die over time. I don't think Nuking is an option with all the 'natural resources' there.

That was pretty deep by the way....

[Skip N]

Stormfish, Admitting defeat and retreating is what the Terrorists want! And you want to give them a victory and retreat??? And stay on the defensive instead of going after people who we know want to kill Americans?? An American defeat in Iraq will be the ultimate recruiting tool for Terrorists. It will motivate them to try and finish us off. But you're ok with that?

I'm speachless....

[stormfish]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Stormfish, Admitting defeat and retreating is what the Terrorists want! And you want to give them a victory and retreat??? And stay on the defensive instead of going after people who we know want to kill Americans?? An American defeat in Iraq will be the ultimate recruiting tool for Terrorists. It will motivate them to try and finish us off. But you're ok with that?

I'm speachless....

But fighting in Iraq is the ultimate recruiting tool! Are you telling me it's a catch 22? I'm speechless...

I'm just suggesting that it is better to defend than offend. Do you go to the bar and cause trouble or would you rather defend yourself when confronted by trouble?

[stormfish]

Before 9/11 what was the other major terrorist attack in the U.S.?

[fishpoopoo]

no support for israel + no need for foreign oil = no need for raghead jihad

[stormfish]

Good equation... but that would have to mean we live in a perfect world. Let's go drinking or fishing... Enough with politics for the day!

[kevin d]

Originally Posted by stormfish

Before 9/11 what was the other major terrorist attack in the U.S.?

The attempted bombing of the WTC.

[stormfish]

Originally Posted by kevin d

The attempted bombing of the WTC.

Wasn't the Oklahoma City Bombing considered Terrorism?

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by stormfish

Wasn't the Oklahoma City Bombing considered Terrorism?

Domestic Terrorism - different scope...

Yes Bali, the one in Egypt, and several others commeited by A Q / Islamic based groups but not with direct intention against Americans