Born Again Christians

[RIJIMMY]

I probably should let this die, but I'm grouchy today. Flap, I dont know you and all and shouldnt stereotype, but you're posts in this thread (and others) are the entire reason I do not trust liberals. Its the mentality of "believe what you want, but if its not what I beleive its because you're not as smart as me". This si the undercurrent of all the anti- Bush rhetoric, war rhetric, now religions rhetoric. As stated above, I am not religious, however I attended relisgiosu schools most of my life and in college took a number of religious classes. To say you got it figured out and hundreds of millions of people are wrong is too funny and exemplifies the liberal view. Always judging others. Did you notice that all the negative religion comments above come from the SAME people who have liberal views on other threads? As Mako Mike pointed out, not very tolerant.
I applaud those of religious conviction, do some use it for their own gain, of course, just like anytinhg else. But faith hope and love are key elements in MOST religions and a world witnout those is one I do not want to live in.

[fishpoopoo]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

...faith hope and love are key elements in MOST religions and a world witnout those is one I do not want to live in.

The Muslim world could use a little more sex, drugs, rock'n roll, and a good pork roast.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by Bassturbed

The Muslim world could use a little more sex, drugs, rock'n roll, and a good pork roast.

Add fishing and you've basically summed up my life.

[Flaptail]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

I probably should let this die, but I'm grouchy today. Flap, I dont know you and all and shouldnt stereotype, but you're posts in this thread (and others) are the entire reason I do not trust liberals. Its the mentality of "believe what you want, but if its not what I beleive its because you're not as smart as me". This si the undercurrent of all the anti- Bush rhetoric, war rhetric, now religions rhetoric. As stated above, I am not religious, however I attended relisgiosu schools most of my life and in college took a number of religious classes. To say you got it figured out and hundreds of millions of people are wrong is too funny and exemplifies the liberal view. Always judging others. Did you notice that all the negative religion comments above come from the SAME people who have liberal views on other threads? As Mako Mike pointed out, not very tolerant.
I applaud those of religious conviction, do some use it for their own gain, of course, just like anytinhg else. But faith hope and love are key elements in MOST religions and a world witnout those is one I do not want to live in.

Boy you are grouchy, see Rappin' Mikey's Wicken thing and the full moon effect. Sounds good to me. Not really that liberal just a deep thinker and realist. And yes Bush does suck.

[Karl F]

Goose, if you have time, Google that. a LOT of reading..
Is the Bible the word of God?.. might be some in there, but not all..
interesting stuff, whe you see who was involved the politics of it all, and how many times it has been revised and edited to meet with certain agendas...

I think Mike P hit the nail on the head with his post too.. that is one passage the televangilists, and the plate passers don't dwell on...

2 years ago, when my mother passed.. a devout bible scholar, church go-er. and mother of 6 sons.. (only one of whom (and not me) attends church, much to her dismay) anyway, I spent the better part of one morning with her pastor from her church in Brewster, going over her funeral service arrangement, and we talked of her beliefs, and differences with both my dad, and brothers, over the matter of the bible and religion. He surprised me, when I told him, while I do not attend church, or have any love of organized religion, or hold much that God's word is verbatim in the bible.. and that I feel much closer to my maker, when I am alone on a dark beach.. and fishing.....than I ever could be in his, or any other church, and I found that to be my "religion", if you could call it that... he smiled.. chuckled and said.. "Me too".. we both got real silent.. and smiled at each other for a while.. BTW.. he did a great job on her service.. "and he is a pretty good fisherman too, I later found out .."

To borrow a phrase from Jimmy Buffet..
"Television Preachers, with bad hair and pimples..
The God's Honest Truth.. it just ain't that simple!"

I feel pretty comfortable that if I have to be judged, it will be on who I am, what I have done, and not on what book I read, or church I attended, or didn't.. I think Flap is right, when he said it's more on how we act, get along, and treat each other..

BTW.. I am no Liberal or Conservative either...
Ah.. religion and politics.. they should never mix.. but always seem to get thrown tin the same pot..

After re-reading this..I prolly should just delete this.. but after all that typing, I might as well post it.. Flame On.. Over and OUT!

[Flaptail]

Oh yeah, and there is a difference, and don't confuse it, with difference of opinion and intolerance. In Bush's world if it isn't the Christian right way it's not the Christian Right way and that is a wrong way (does that make sense?)

Enough religion I am going fishing tonight, you know outside maybe the wicken thing has some promise.

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

I probably should let this die, but I'm grouchy today. Flap, I dont know you and all and shouldnt stereotype, but you're posts in this thread (and others) are the entire reason I do not trust liberals. Its the mentality of "believe what you want, but if its not what I beleive its because you're not as smart as me". This si the undercurrent of all the anti- Bush rhetoric, war rhetric, now religions rhetoric. As stated above, I am not religious, however I attended relisgiosu schools most of my life and in college took a number of religious classes. To say you got it figured out and hundreds of millions of people are wrong is too funny and exemplifies the liberal view. Always judging others. Did you notice that all the negative religion comments above come from the SAME people who have liberal views on other threads? As Mako Mike pointed out, not very tolerant.
I applaud those of religious conviction, do some use it for their own gain, of course, just like anytinhg else. But faith hope and love are key elements in MOST religions and a world witnout those is one I do not want to live in.

You hit the nail on the head with tolerence issue and liberals. They love to preach to us conservatives to be more tolerent to thier lifestyles and beliefs, yet when do they EVER practice what they preach and attempt to become tolerent towards our views?? Never. Tolerence to a Liberal means a Conservative must change thier views, but the Liberal need not change thiers.

Bunch of freakin' hypocrytes.

[fishpoopoo]

w-i-c-c-a-n

[spence]

Originally Posted by Skip N

They love to preach to us conservatives

Skippy, do you even know what a Conservative is?

Hint: It's not an anti-liberal

-spence

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

I probably should let this die, but I'm grouchy today. Flap, I dont know you and all and shouldnt stereotype, but you're posts in this thread (and others) are the entire reason I do not trust liberals. Its the mentality of "believe what you want, but if its not what I beleive its because you're not as smart as me". This si the undercurrent of all the anti- Bush rhetoric, war rhetric, now religions rhetoric. As stated above, I am not religious, however I attended relisgiosu schools most of my life and in college took a number of religious classes. To say you got it figured out and hundreds of millions of people are wrong is too funny and exemplifies the liberal view. Always judging others. Did you notice that all the negative religion comments above come from the SAME people who have liberal views on other threads? As Mako Mike pointed out, not very tolerant.
I applaud those of religious conviction, do some use it for their own gain, of course, just like anytinhg else. But faith hope and love are key elements in MOST religions and a world witnout those is one I do not want to live in.

On a side note: Maybe the Demoncrats will spend more money on education

[Skitterpop]

The only true church is within each and every one of us....

I also like ....there is nothing new under the sun


or..... Richie Haven`s FREEDOM


and my own....the lost, scared, and desperate find strength in their convictions, finally.... or for the time being.