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11-23-2006, 01:26 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
Posts: 5,451
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I abhor the word "keepah" in describing fish, in my little group it's small legal or legal and legal ain't no "keepah" in my book, 28 inches is a minnow, plain and straight.
I still use the terms we used when we sold everything over 16 inches, smalls, mediums, large..
36 inch fish would to 15 pounds for a fatty and average 20 back when ( and to all of you that are going to post about me bringing up the old days, put a sock in it. Most of you weren't there and aren't worthy enough to talk of those times.) 30 pounders were the norm and spring fish were called racers not cause they were skinny but because of the way they would rip the rod almost out of your hands when they nailed your plug in the first wave and take off like a frieght train from the Monomoy and Nauset shores. By the time they reached P-Town in force around July4th they were getting a little lethargic with all the food and warm water.
Best fishing ever though was not the good old 70s it was in the late 80's early nineties when the limit was 36 inches, the 70's had big fish and you could go anywhere by buggy or boat without a lot of restriction but for more 36 inch fish in areas they were not used to being seen in, like the B-Harbor flats. We could go there in the skiff and take several with surety each trip on the fly that would top 20 pounds in a tide while drifting the bars.
Ah, twas only like that again........(sigh)
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Why even try.........
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11-23-2006, 02:09 PM
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Seal Control
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Caver, Ma.
Posts: 3,875
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In July & Aug all I want to see is 34" then they go to market!
After that its just for fun and I could careless.
I might eat 2 fish a year, Bass isn't on top of the food chain here, I rather have some nice Fluke or Sea Bass even Scup 
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"All my friends are Flakes!!"
BOATLESS
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11-23-2006, 03:21 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Saratoga Springs NY
Posts: 639
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inches are tough to get a read on weight with todays fish. In June I landed 2 fish 1 week a part each 45" long. The first fish was 21 lbs and the 2nd was 35 lbs. I was astonished at the weight difference.
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11-23-2006, 05:05 PM
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Red Eye Jedi
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: East Facing
Posts: 4,374
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaptail
( and to all of you that are going to post about me bringing up the old days, put a sock in it. Most of you weren't there and aren't worthy enough to talk of those times.)
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11-23-2006, 05:44 PM
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Lubina Estriada!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 307
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"Back in the day" anthem is an old war cry and often looked back on. I prefer to look ahead. I have no complaints about size of Striped Bass or a shortage. Does it make me a less of a fisherman if I talk in inches? lol
Did a miracle take place in the olden days and bass became big mac over eaters? I would hope bass eat the same now as they did back then. Theres plenty of bait to eat. I have never fished the late seventies and early 80's. Mid 80's and on is my time.
The bottom line? Bass don't change....we do...or not. lol
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Kayak Fishing Baby! Fish Reel Hard!
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11-23-2006, 08:44 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Burlington
Posts: 2,290
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I am from the old farts school on inches to weight, but seeing as I mostly release fish caught I do not weigh them as I feel they are harmed more by hanging them from the lip. I have been using the attached chart to estimate the weight of a fish caught. Note that it gives the min and max weights of a particular sized fish. It is a useful guide only.  NS - is this the chart you were looking for? 
Last edited by gone fishin; 01-14-2008 at 11:48 PM..
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low & slow 37
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11-23-2006, 10:31 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gone fishin
I am from the old farts school on inches to weight, but seeing as I mostly release fish caught I do not weigh them as I feel they are harmed more by hanging them from the lip. I have been using the attached chart to estimate the weight of a fish caught. Note that it gives the min and max weights of a particular sized fish. It is a useful guide only.  NS - is this the chart you were looking for? 
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That's a great chart the only thing is are the talking fork length or total length, there is a huge difference, by looking the chart over I think it is fork length.
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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11-25-2006, 10:08 AM
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Marcia! Marcia! Marcia!
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Marshfield
Posts: 2,608
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gone fishin
I am from the old farts school on inches to weight, but seeing as I mostly release fish caught I do not weigh them as I feel they are harmed more by hanging them from the lip. I have been using the attached chart to estimate the weight of a fish caught. Note that it gives the min and max weights of a particular sized fish. It is a useful guide only.  NS - is this the chart you were looking for? 
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This is very useful. I don't have a scale and being on the younger side of this thread(37) report in inches because I only carry a tape. This is a very interesting thread with a lot of good points by all. Thanks Striprman for your conversions as well!
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"Sunshine Day Dream"
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11-25-2006, 04:50 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
Posts: 4,949
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My girlfriend is always trying to measure me.
I think she said is was six lbs... 
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FORE!
It's usually darkest just before it turns Black..
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11-25-2006, 05:32 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NIB
My girlfriend is always trying to measure me.
I think she said is was six lbs... 
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You wish
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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11-25-2006, 07:59 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ridler72
"Back in the day" anthem is an old war cry and often looked back on. I prefer to look ahead. I have no complaints about size of Striped Bass or a shortage. Does it make me a less of a fisherman if I talk in inches? lol
Did a miracle take place in the olden days and bass became big mac over eaters? I would hope bass eat the same now as they did back then. Theres plenty of bait to eat. I have never fished the late seventies and early 80's. Mid 80's and on is my time.
The bottom line? Bass don't change....we do...or not. lol
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Another thing that has stayed true over the years is the old saying "Not all fishermen are liars, but a lot of liars fish" 
The fish haven't changed size at all, probably not since the inception of time. 
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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11-25-2006, 10:04 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 3,650
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What I was most struck with when republishing The Call Of The Surf was that Heilner was in his early twenties when he co-wrote it along with Stick who was only in his early thirties. Interesting that a man so young as Heilner was (at the time) is now universally cast as a "giant in the sport."
There is a tendency in our sport to equate age, experience, and the era in which we fished with sportsmanship and skill. I have not found the three to be mutually inclusive. There are great fishermen and great sportsmen walking among the living - and some of them are quite young.
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11-24-2006, 06:54 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bart
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Second that. I was around Flap, and 36" fish never averaged 20#'s, ever. Not even if you are talking fork length. They were always 15-18#'s, unless you were stuffing them with sand. Occasionally you might get a new moon freak at chatham light that weighed 20, but not many.No how, no "weigh". Even Daignault's records from the 70's prove this clearly if you look at any of his data collected over the years when he was weighmaster. T.C wil tell you the same thing.
Last edited by Back Beach; 11-24-2006 at 07:10 AM..
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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11-24-2006, 09:07 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: New Haven Ct
Posts: 957
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once you get over 40" you need a scale I'v seen 42" fish from 22# to 30# thats a big differance theres more room for era or inflated gussaments with a tape.
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11-24-2006, 10:46 AM
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Red Eye Jedi
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: East Facing
Posts: 4,374
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yup, 2 years ago i got a 41" pig that weighed 30.6 #
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11-25-2006, 07:52 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shadow
once you get over 40" you need a scale I'v seen 42" fish from 22# to 30# thats a big differance theres more room for era or inflated gussaments with a tape.
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Agree with you 100%.
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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