If you want to fish Cuttyhunk.... you better start exercising those legs.

[Canalman]

Originally Posted by piemma

John:
I meant harm to our site.

Freudian slip?

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by piemma

John:
I never meant to imply that it wa S-B.com that caused the overfishing at Cutty. I stated that it was the Internet. I meant that as a generalization. I still believe that the Internet in general spreads information at light speed and, as a result, things (good and bad) happen at a faster rate than back before the .com era.

You know that I am a huge fan, a loyal board member and a friend. I meant harm to our site.

None taken at all And Merry Christmas to you sir as I probably will not see you.

Originally Posted by Canalman

Freudian slip?

[Clammer]

I can hit f #$%^&*( rocks anywhere ><><

[piemma]

John:
I wish you and your family all the best of the Holiday season.

[fishaholic18]

[Canalman]

Well I'm glad everything turned out alright

[fishaholic18]

Originally Posted by Canalman

Well I'm glad everything turned out alright

Don't you feel the LOVE???

[eelman]

Originally Posted by Canalman

Billy,

I'm not trying to start a huge battle or anything, but you really played a big part in ths "blowing up of cutty" check these out...

http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...ighlight=cutty

http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...ighlight=cutty

http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...ight=cuttyhunk

With the things you say in these threads... who wouldn't go? That said, I wouldn't know half of what I know about cutty if it weren't for your whispered secrets... like I said... not trying to start a battle... just pointing this out.

-Dave

Your right Dave, but I sent you alot of stuff to help you out the best I could in PM'S ..........And the cat was far out of the bag before I posted anything...And in one of those threads I edited it down to a simple "cutty was good" You dont have to preface everything you say with "Not trying to start trouble" When in fact thats exactly why you would take the time to search someones past posts, its obvious you want to look at this though only my window of posts..there is a reason for that..I know where you fish...do I paste up here for all to see?? Nope...Most of the cutty threads I write were pics not stunning insight..I am surprised that someone who I have told things to and tried to be honest with turns around and somehow trys to turn threads into my fault? So agree with none of what I said..Those whispered secrets were for you only, and to use that against me when I was tring to be a friend is pretty low in my opinion, those pms should have stayed between you and I...Trust is a funny thing, I took dave at his word when he told me you were "ok" you live and learn...stabbed in the back for giving helpfull advice...this stuff is nuts.......

F18....I did not learn about that place on the Internet, thats for sure...I came very close to going there in 1996 for the first time and it fell though...so Whatever you may think you know or the idea that I learned here is false...Just FYI...

[Swimmer]

What does this trust have to do with Cuttyhunk, a seperate island?

And you can call a road private all you want, but there is way more to that than just posting a sign.

[Nebe]

guys, cuttyhunk has always been known as a great place to fish for bass. I think all of you are over reacting about this and cutty is certianly not ruined because of one piece of access being cut off out there. take a deep breath and have a merry christmas

[eelman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

guys, cuttyhunk has always been known as a great place to fish for bass. I think all of you are over reacting about this and cutty is certianly not ruined because of one piece of access being cut off out there. take a deep breath and have a merry christmas

Best thing said all day...Merry Xmas to you also!

[JHABS]

The only Secret on the Island would be When and Where to Go and What to Use............

[Canalman]

Bill I said "not trying to start trouble" because I know about your explosive tendencies... don;t try and turn the tables here... I was just pointing out that you have yourself to blame for blowing up the island that everyone already knew about....

[Canalman]

Those PMs did stay between you and I. You are insane. I don't think you get it... I'm not trying to trash you... I'm pointing out the fact that you complain about things that are largely under your own control... you do it all the time. I'm not trying to disassemble our friendship... you gave me great advice, now take some from me, if you stop posting specific info things won't change and if you think before you post and read things through... you'll see that they're not always of ill intent.

And that post where you said "cutty was good" was edited... most of us remember what was actually said.

[Canalman]

Light fuse and get away...........

[eelman]

Originally Posted by Canalman

Those PMs did stay between you and I. You are insane. I don't think you get it... I'm not trying to trash you... I'm pointing out the fact that you complain about things that are largely under your own control... you do it all the time. I'm not trying to disassemble our friendship... you gave me great advice, now take some from me, if you stop posting specific info things won't change and if you think before you post and read things through... you'll see what they actually mean.

And that post where you said "cutty was good" was edited... most of us remember what was actually said.

My second post here says that, I admitted I said things also, but It was not me who burned the place, I could care less about the place, once a year is enough for me if that. I am not insane, just wondering why you felt the need to put that "whispered" stuff in your thread. Pms are just that, Private..Its no big deal, the truth is I never went there with 20guys in tow...and then expect none of them to talk.

[Canalman]

I've never been there with 20 guys in tow either man. I think we're fighting for the same thing here... you just missed my point.

[Canalman]

What difference does it make if I mentioned a PM... it says nothing about the contents...

[fishaholic18]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

F18....I did not learn about that place on the Internet, thats for sure...I came very close to going there in 1996 for the first time and it fell though...so Whatever you may think you know or the idea that I learned here is false...Just FYI...

And where in the F%$#@ did I say that?? Stop putting F%$#@ word in my mouth!!!

I asked u a ?? that u failed to answer...
My point was////YOU learned it from someone,somewhere,somehow..Right?????
Unless you just woke up one morning and figured you'd be the founder this island that has never been stepped on and call it Cutty.....

[Fish_Eye]

Hi Everyone,

I first learned about Cuttyhunk about 46 years ago. It was considered the high alter of places to fish back in the 50s when I read about it in Salt Water Sportsman magazine. Damn that Frank Woolner, what a spot burning fool he was! Unless you live under a rock, or you can’t read, or you don’t talk to old timers and pick their brains about great spots to fish, you have to know about Cuttyhunk.

For the last 10 years I’ve been showcasing the island and acknowledging the rich history of the Cuttyhunk Fishing Club and focusing my underwater camera on the schools of linesiders that frequent the area. I happen to be an outdoor writer, that’s my profession; I happen to be a video producer; how could I avoid featuring the one place on the planet that I always dreamed of fishing since I was 10 years old? How could anyone ignore a place that has been synonymous with striped bass since 1864?

I’ve put up many a post with pictures and descriptions of where to fish on the island. My latest DVD has over twenty minutes dedicated to my own hunt for monster bass and it showcases Cuttyhunk. Before the ball drops in Time Square thousands of anglers will have gotten a lesson in history and will learn about Cuttyhunk. BTW last month Field and Stream featured the Striper Club on Cuttyhunk as one of the top 25 places to fish in the United States – over 3 million people will eventually read about it.

For better or worse we live in an information age. In the past you had to figure things out for yourself or perhaps some old salt would take you under his wings and show you the ropes, now the information is out there…it’s only a few mouse clicks away.

However, on a shrinking planet with a growing population and dwindling resources we now have more responsibility than ever before. We have the responsibility to protect and preserve. We all share in the right to use the common resource but access rights to the shore vary from state to state. We are all responsible for how we conduct ourselves when we fish the surf. We need to respect private property, we need to be quiet, we need to police the area and leave it cleaner than we found it. If given the right of way across private property we need to show respect and realize that it’s a gift that can easily be taken away.

I’ve heard plenty of horror stories about golf carts full of beer and gangs of fishermen making their way to the point with more of an interest in partying than in fishing. I’m afraid we’re going to have to police ourselves when it comes to this kind of bad behavior…a few bad apples can ruin things for all of us.

I will continue to promote Cuttyhunk as one of the top striper destinations on the planet, as I will Beavertail, Point Judith, Block Island, Gay Head and the other "secret spots" like Montauk Point. I can only hope that people will enjoy and respect these places as much as I do.

I couldn’t help but notice that there are close to 4,000 views of the post on fishing Australia’s Steep Point and other world famous down owner hot spots, obviously it’s immensely entertaining to learn about a world famous spot to fish…some might say this is spot burning of the highest magnitude. I say, “That’s unadulterated balderdash!” People have a right to tell stories about great places to fish and people have a right to learn about them and even visit them. If anyone has a problem with that concept I hope they visit Steep Point and take a flying leap…hopefully there will be a tiger shark waiting below.

Happy Holidays!


Mike

[eelman]

Originally Posted by fishaholic18

And where in the F%$#@ did I say that?? Stop putting F%$#@ word in my mouth!!!

I asked u a ?? that u failed to answer...
My point was////YOU learned it from someone,somewhere,somehow..Right?????
Unless you just woke up one morning and figured you'd be the founder this island that has never been stepped on and call it Cutty.....

How did you know? Thats exactly waht happened...your good! I woke up one morning and it came to me ...just like that

[fishaholic18]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

How did you know? Thats exactly waht happened...your good! I woke up one morning and it came to me ...just like that

I thought so...

[Pete F.]

Nomans

OhOh I did it now

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by beamie

Boy this thread is churning some opinions.

Just think about the numbers of people who read the stories of Cutty whether recent stories on the net or from an oldtimer at the shop. The number of people who hear and read about the stories but never do actually go/get a chance to fish there far exceed the number of people who actually do.

So is it ok to finally go make the trek to Cutty because you read the story and saw the pic of Churchs bass...or talked with Otnic at a meeting about his fish.....but you can't if you happened to read about it on a site.

This thread is reading this way........I have been going there on and off for years and the internet ruined it.......So you have yours and no one else "new" can try it?......Where and how did the people who went there in the past hear about Cutty.....but that way was ok.

The fact is that fishing is popular and is on the upswing of popular since the recovery of the bass numbers. People have a little money in thier pocket and want to make the trip out there....so be it, you can't change it, there are no grandfather rules saying I heard about this place before you so you can't come.

When the day comes where the bass cycle is on the downturn and fishing is real slow, the number of people going out there will drop, internet or no internet, high gas prices or low gas prices, eels or no eels.

Merry X-mas

Yup

[whiplash]

I don't know how many of you guys are from the Cape and Islands - I mean born there. I was. And I fished all the Holy Grounds in the 50's and 60's and 70's and I could really b**** about all the folks that invaded the beaches and the "spots", the Feds coming in and screwing up the lower Cape, but I don't because I'm sure someone was b****ing about me coming in .Its all "progress" wether we like it or not. It was bad enough when it was just Saltwater Sportsmen and The Fishermen mags one article about the whiteperch in the Agawam back in the 60's and three years later you couldn't by a fish in that river. If you don't like the crowds -stay home -if you don't want someone else on your rock -don't post- this and the other sites are based on a common theme FISHING and sharing info . Nobody is fishing a spot for the first time ,we are always walking in some elses boot prints -accept. If some place gets shut down we have no one else to blame but ourselves. Get over it and try and be the best ambassadour(sp) for fishing that you can be and maybe fewer spots will be off limits. Sorry if I pissed anybody off but think about the locals its thier towns we are invading.
Merry Chritmas and be safe.
Jim

[fishaholic18]

Originally Posted by Canalman

Freudian slip?

Where the %$#@ do you come up with these words????

[afterhours]

when the going gets tough- the tough get going. maybe it'll keep people away........don't think the net exposed cutty- everyones always known about it. it always came up like bi, mtk, nausett back in the day. i started fishing it by boat in the '80s and by shore the last few years.

[piemma]

Christ. Next year the "new" hot spot will be Fishers Island.

[NIB]

I travel some to fish i enjoy it an the company of new friends I have made ..
Never made the pilgrimage to cutty although i was offered a trip over many times..
I read some good post's in this thread like sandman's tread lightly post on how to gain late night access on private property.It's pretty much common sense..
Like I read if I could guess the problem is not the fisherman albeit 1 or 20.
The food user groups that give our sport a bad name does not/will not make the trip over there.
The sport of Striped Bass fishing has increased 1000 fold since Timmy made the trip there in the 70's.
We have to face the facts even without a internet these little gems would get found out.
Its Progress U can bury Ur head in the sand an wish on days gone by or u can do what U can to enjoy Ur life..
I will an have always done what it takes in the pursuit of happiness.
Let Ur conscious be Ur guide.
Merry Christmas To All From The NIB..

[shadow]

Originally Posted by NIB

I travel some to fish i enjoy it an the company of new friends I have made ..
Never made the pilgrimage to cutty although i was offered a trip over many times..
I read some good post's in this thread like sandman's tread lightly post on how to gain late night access on private property.It's pretty much common sense..
Like I read if I could guess the problem is not the fisherman albeit 1 or 20.
The food user groups that give our sport a bad name does not/will not make the trip over there.
The sport of Striped Bass fishing has increased 1000 fold since Timmy made the trip there in the 70's.
We have to face the facts even without a internet these little gems would get found out.
Its Progress U can bury Ur head in the sand an wish on days gone by or u can do what U can to enjoy Ur life..
I will an have always done what it takes in the pursuit of happiness.
Let Ur conscious be Ur guide.
Merry Christmas To All From The NIB..

good post NIB I think people can cry about this kind of stuff or go about thier bussines quitely under the rader if access on the dirt road is cut off find your own way out to the west end and don't tell no one where your fishing.