PlugFest 07 Contest Discussion

[JohnR]

Would like to get PlugFest 07 Contest Discussion for the Builder Contests:

Categories?

(ie - seperate category for novelty plug)

Annonymous?

Other Suggestions?

[thefishingfreak]

hot cheerleaders

[Flaptail]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

hot cheerleaders

Yeah we could call them the "plug Ho's"

As far as categories it should be: 1. REAL FISHING PLUG
2. CLASSIC
3. NOVELTY

And last but not least they all should SWIM!!!!!!!!!

AND OF COURSE THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF SIMMERING KIELBASA BEANS AND ONIONS TO LIVEN UP THE PLACE.

[fishaholic18]

One category
Build whatever you want.
One winner=Bigger prize=More incentive.
Worked out fine b4
People want change because they can't win.
Bring down the Champ the right way-One on one.oke:

[numbskull]

You might consider an "open category" which could be anything, and a "limited" category in which we all build our own version of a predetermined type of plug. The open category would be entertaining, the limited category a test of skill and very educational. I'd vote to keep the prizes small.

[Canalman]

3 Catagories? Now I have to build 3 plugs?!?

I don't really have an opinion, I really just enjoy PlugFest from start to finish. My only question: What the hell are we gonna do with a kitty pool of water in February? We can't leave it outside or we'll have to heat it or put skate blades on the plugs. We can't fill a pool inside the hall... unless.. we siphon the water out after I guess... that might work. I love the idea of making them have to swim though.

Glad I'm not planning it this year

[Tagger]

Originally Posted by fishaholic18

People want change because they can't win.

I really don't believe that . I've seen some of the most impressive handcarvings (birds, fish) from people who enter vintage plugs. They go through great pains taking effort to get it right, but the general voter won't realize the effort or likeness to original and the handcarve will win hands down everytime. So if we keep things "as is" eventually it will be just a handcarve contest. We as plugbuilders will loose all that history from builders who enter past relics and all the knowledge that goes along with it . I'd like to see a Vintage table and with the plug a piece of paper that explains what ever history is available . Orig builder,, Years built,, production stopped,, available colors maybe.. old fish story of plug .. I think that would be good for us,, promote conversation,, maybe re think some things we are building now relating to the past . Be educational .. We have some among us who have a vast knowledge of plugs past .. Do we want to loose that ? This is NO way knocking handcarves .. Love them .. Been doing handcarve ,, like being born again ,, can't get enough.. Past entries very memorable by extremly talented , pateint people . Don't want to loose that either. Categorys I see Handcarve,,Vintage,,Modern ... Modern is a table you might see a darter with spinner blades hanging off it everywhere . Blade Runner

[The Dad Fisherman]

I would say keep it simple. I liked the original idea that was getting thrown around earlier 1 Category for an actual Plug that swims and one that is a Novelty.

the More "Qualifications" you attach to it the less people you will have enter it.

[fishaholic18]

Originally Posted by Tagger

I really don't believe that .

I do.

[Slipknot]

Believe what you want to believe.

Good points so far

I think we should go with a simple approach of 2 catagories. You can enter plugs in both if you want to or just choose to enter one or the other. 1. a serious plug made of wood or similar material that can actually swim,cast and be able to and expected to catch fish. Also could be a historically accurate vintage plug copy if you want. 2. a novelty type plug, use you imagination but keep it somewhat reasonable in size atleast. Make it with a motor for all we care or be creative like PNG did last year with the corncob native american indian plug

The whole point of it is to have fun and add more ways to enjoy the sport of fishing that we all love. Competition is just for bragging rights. The prizes should be kept small and simple IMO also.

[thefishingfreak]

completely remove the "competition".
have a table with stuff your proud of. guess the builder etc.. everybody gets a twinky.

competition means "winners" and "losers"..to put it bluntly.

[Tagger]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

everybody gets a twinky.

and cheer leaders..

[BigFish]

KISS....keep it simple! The more complicated you get the more complaints you will have!

[Canalman]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

The whole point of it is to have fun and add more ways to enjoy the sport of fishing that we all love. Competition is just for bragging rights. The prizes should be kept small and simple IMO also.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

Believe what you want to believe.

Good points so far

I think we should go with a simple approach of 2 catagories. You can enter plugs in both if you want to or just choose to enter one or the other. 1. a serious plug made of wood or similar material that can actually swim,cast and be able to and expected to catch fish. Also could be a historically accurate vintage plug copy if you want. 2. a novelty type plug, use you imagination but keep it somewhat reasonable in size atleast. Make it with a motor for all we care or be creative like PNG did last year with the corncob native american indian plug

The whole point of it is to have fun and add more ways to enjoy the sport of fishing that we all love. Competition is just for bragging rights. The prizes should be kept small and simple IMO also.

Anyone think they can Bronze a Twinkie ?

[Tagger]

Everyone agrees on the Twinkee part .. We're getting somewhere .

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

completely remove the "competition".
have a table with stuff your proud of. guess the builder etc.. everybody gets a twinky.

competition means "winners" and "losers"..to put it bluntly.

come on Mike, we're men, it's not T-ball . it's a friendly competition anyway.

cheerleaders someone invite the Hooters girls

Who has a kiddie pool to bring anyway?

[fishaholic18]

[GattaFish]

IMO,,, I am stuck in TX and can't go but.... there are some smart people here,,, I am sure someone can bronze the twinkie,,,,

[fishaholic18]

I say keep it the same it's always been, worked out fine IMHO. Start swim testing in a kiddie pool, things will get complicated. We'll need to hire judges next..

[Slipknot]

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If I go I'm entering a stick again this year. Maybe I'll use maple this time.

as long as it has grain

[Slipknot]

How do you guys feel about allowing plugs from out of staters who can't make it here like Jigman?

[numbskull]

Any chance to see what someone else is building is OK by me.

[fishaholic18]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

How do you guys feel about allowing plugs from out of staters who can't make it here like Jigman?

Yes, for sure

[ProfessorM]

Originally Posted by fishaholic18

People want change because they can't win.
Bring down the Champ the right way

4 flat tires plugfest morn

[Karl F]

should I wear waders, so I can stand in the kiddy pool?
was SRO in there last year.. might not be a bad idea

BTW..Yeah on Jigman, he'd be a shoe-in for long distance award, and best plug.. two twinkies up.

How about a Hobbyist division, and a Commercial division?

A newbie division?

OK..

Seriously tho... don't make a mountain out of a mole hill...

K.I.S.S.

Whomever runs it, do it your way, and let the chips fall, where they may.. anybody don't like it.. sign them up to run it next year, and they can do it their way

[Canalman]

Why does this have to get so complicated ? If anything... I think we should dumb it down a bit (although I do like the creative/fishable catagories). No more most likely to catch a cow etc... And enough with this "champ" sh it,

Why can't it be simple?

Like this:

2 Catagories... Creative/Off the wall and Fishable Lure

Each entrant can enter 1 plug in each catagory or pick just one.

All Plugs must be made of wood, can be lathe turned, hand carved, lazer engraved, dragged behind a speeding vehicle... whatever you want.

If you guys want a swim test than only the fishable plug should have to swim or both?

Voters will pick 3 plugs for each of the 2 catagories, giving 1st place 3 points, 2nd 2 points and 3rd 1 point. All points will be tallied and the winners will have the highest score (obviously)

You guys decide the prizes. And for crissakes, let's not make this another S-B shootout.... this and everything else on this board is supposed to be fun.... I know, I know I'm guilty too

Oh and let me be the first to call "not bringing the kitty pool"

Does that sound easy and fair?
-Dave

[Canalman]

Originally Posted by Karl F

How about a Hobbyist division, and a Commercial division?

[fishaholic18]

Originally Posted by ProfessorM

4 flat tires plugfest morn

He probably wouldn't even notice..

[Canalman]

Originally Posted by fishaholic18

He probably wouldn't even notice..

Actually... I'd be callin you.... "Dave... uh.. is there an easy fix for 4 flats?"