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Old 01-08-2007, 08:27 AM   #1
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What would you pay for a 2oz.-3oz. bm[beachmaster] needle? and 2oz. bm atom..just wondering what you think would be a fair price [not] e-bay prices.
bm needle - 25 bucks - BM atom 30 bucks

When I saw what people where paying for em I dumped them all except one of each model to hang on the wall.

I only fish RM Smith, Tattoo, Big Don and Habs. That covers everything I need.

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Old 01-08-2007, 08:35 AM   #2
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bobby makes a nice plug but he's not the only one.no way will I buy one on e-bay.I'll fish something else and when he makes more of what I like then I'll stock up at a fair price.
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Old 01-08-2007, 08:43 AM   #3
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As the price goes up, the number of people that will accept a substitute increases.
A portion of the potential customers of the first-choice product will not go back - the rise of competitors who can meet demand becomes more likely.

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Old 01-08-2007, 08:47 AM   #4
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i can see a person paying $100 for a plug - if it's a hard-to-obtain item that is going to be cut up and cloned. to somebody buildling their own, a beachmaster metal lipped plug is a wise investment.

now, if you're going to spend $100 bucks and fish the thing, that is farkin stoopid, unless you happen to be bill gates or warren buffet.

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Old 01-08-2007, 08:48 AM   #5
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I'm gonna sell on ebay a video of a BM going through a wood chipper.

Or I'll just post it here.

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I remember a years ago when dave manzi cut one(a danny) in half..
There where pics to document it..

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I remember years ago when I cut a dave manzi danny in half

There was pictures there too

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I remember a years ago when dave manzi cut one(a danny) in half..
There where pics to document it..
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If I paid a hundred for a plug , it would be to hang on the wall. I would never fish it.

The canal is great in that respect. Pour a jig for 45 cents , stick on a 60 cent curltail and let it slizzer right on the bottom. If it gets snagged , you lose $1.

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And congrats on your plugs, you really have some sweet stuff!
As for fishing them, (and I am a collector and fisherman)
Let's just say this,,,that's what they are made for! When we are in the boat around the rocks with wire line ...I always go for the Gibbs gts 3 3/4 "nothing has better action"
Hell the damm thing is to big to cast any how..lol
I always toss an old beat up Atom or what ever I have in my bag.
Now as a colllector, I would think twice about tossing MINT old plugage out to a bloo fish blitz. LOL
Again, welcome to the site.Head over to the antique lure forum and post some pictures please
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Old 01-10-2007, 03:42 PM   #10
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Now as a colllector, I would think twice about tossing MINT old plugage out to a bloo fish blitz. LOL
watchout he doesnt like being "lectured"

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bobby makes a nice plug but he's not the only one.no way will I buy one on e-bay.I'll fish something else and when he makes more of what I like then I'll stock up at a fair price.
That's the way to do it. Most styles will come around again, with time.

I'm amazed people part so easily with some plugs. A 3 oz. Beachmaster Musso wad might as well be irreplaceable. Obviously the seller never took it fishing. Even at $50 or so it's far more valuable to me ready to fish then cashed out on eBay...
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You'ld think for that kind of money that the seller would at least throw in a couple of hooks.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:58 PM   #13
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What I find interesting is those that don't build plugs want them cheap..those that do know what the cost is and the time it takes to make just one...if you added the tools-time-material together..each one should start at 30.00-50.00 and go up from there.So in the eyes of a builder...$30.00 ain't much lettice.

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What I find interesting is those that don't build plugs want them cheap..those that do know what the cost is and the time it takes to make just one...if you added the tools-time-material together..each one should start at 30.00-50.00 and go up from there.So in the eyes of a builder...$30.00 ain't much lettice.

pfffft. not so with plugs made in china.

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What I find interesting is those that don't build plugs want them cheap..those that do know what the cost is and the time it takes to make just one...if you added the tools-time-material together..each one should start at 30.00-50.00 and go up from there.So in the eyes of a builder...$30.00 ain't much lettice.
Aha, the ol' woe is plugbuilder
Comeon CS, thats not even close to realistic. Even if each part cost a buck, your still making $10 per plug. 8-10 plugs per hour, thats some decent $ right there.

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If your mass producing..fine as kind....basement builder..I think not.If Bobby was a full blown space building set up and made all his styles year round and pumped out hundereds per month....yes ..they'd be down to 13-16.00 and be in every shop in every state....but I don't consider a two car garage and one or two styles a year mass producing.

I often think if there was GOOD money in building,,many of the gone by builders would still be still around produceing today...plug's wood be cheap.Most cranking them out today have other money jobs or a good bank account behind them.

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Aha, the ol' woe is plugbuilder
Comeon CS, thats not even close to realistic. Even if each part cost a buck, your still making $10 per plug. 8-10 plugs per hour, thats some decent $ right there.
I guess I'm in the wrong business
who in this world can actually make 8 plugs in under and hour? 7-1/2 min. per plug for one man is a bit of a stretch to cover all and I mean all of the steps involved.

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What I find interesting is those that don't build plugs want them cheap..those that do know what the cost is and the time it takes to make just one...if you added the tools-time-material together..each one should start at 30.00-50.00 and go up from there.So in the eyes of a builder...$30.00 ain't much lettice.

I roll my own... Ain't NO WAY I'm laying out over $25 for something to toss in the ocean...

Hand building does take time though, you are correct about that.

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You'ld think for that kind of money that the seller would at least throw in a couple of hooks.
Believe it or not if they throw hooks on it they can't list it as new. Beachmasters, new, don't come with hooks.

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