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Old 01-23-2007, 08:14 PM   #1
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global warming is inevitable & there is no turning it around. It is the natural way of things. The earth is destined to burn up with the sun. There is evidence though that we may be speeding things up.

I agree that using one winter here in the NE to support the theory is ridiculous. Since out west they have had one of the coldest winters on record.

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Old 01-23-2007, 09:06 PM   #2
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Old 01-24-2007, 01:17 PM   #3
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global warming is inevitable & there is no turning it around. It is the natural way of things. The earth is destined to burn up with the sun. There is evidence though that we may be speeding things up.

I agree that using one winter here in the NE to support the theory is ridiculous. Since out west they have had one of the coldest winters on record.
I will leave out my opinions and try to focus on facts...

First off the earth will burn up with the sun in billions and billions of years from now when the sun expands prior to dying out. The global warming happening has nothing to due with changes in the sun.

Global warming may be inevitable and part of the ice age cycle, but there is no question it has excelerated over the last 100 years as the level of CO2 has risen. That is not just based on the fact that we have been keeping records that long, but is in rock and ice cores showing conditions long ago.

Human activity adds CO2 and other greenhouse gases to the atmosphere. Greenhouse gases trap heat. Trapped heat warms the globe. The more heat trapped, the more moisture in the air, the more heat is trapped...

The west has had a lot of snow, but not one of the coldest winters on record. Warmer temps mean more snow, due to more moisture (this fact could mean that global warming will trigger an ice age in the end). Some places like San Antonio have had cold temperatures. CLimate change is expected to affected specific localities differently. The global avereage temp, in any case, is going up.

CO2 from cows is an anthropomorphic cause. I won't go into what to do about it...

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CO2 from cows is an anthropomorphic cause. I won't go into what to do about it...

Over my head. What is this anthropomorphic cause you speak of?

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The global warming happening has nothing to due with changes in the sun.

Human activity adds CO2 and other greenhouse gases to the atmosphere. Greenhouse gases trap heat. Trapped heat warms the globe. The more heat trapped, the more moisture in the air, the more heat is trapped...

CO2 from cows is an anthropomorphic cause. I won't go into what to do about it...
1) I have read several papers that claim that the sun, or more specifically, the increase in the sun's activity has a lot to do with global warming.

2) No question that the gasses trap heat. The question is how much of the gases are due to human activity and how much is due to natural causes, such as the increase in volcanis activity.

3) How "necessary" are cows?

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Old 01-25-2007, 10:28 AM   #6
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1) I have read several papers that claim that the sun, or more specifically, the increase in the sun's activity has a lot to do with global warming.

2) No question that the gasses trap heat. The question is how much of the gases are due to human activity and how much is due to natural causes, such as the increase in volcanis activity.

3) How "necessary" are cows?
I heard somewhere that Mt. St Helens released more greenhouse gases than mankind has in its existence.
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Old 01-25-2007, 10:38 AM   #7
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I heard somewhere that Mt. St Helens released more greenhouse gases than mankind has in its existence.
That's just anti-environmentalist disinformation to keep the profits flowing. Complete BS...

Volcanoes do emit a lot of sulphur dioxide I believe, which is nasty but more local in impact.

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That's just anti-environmentalist disinformation to keep the profits flowing. Complete BS...

Volcanoes do emit a lot of sulphur dioxide I believe, which is nasty but more local in impact.

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The total amount of overall greenhouse gases emitted by St. Helens maybe BS but denying that volcanic eruptions don't have a global impact is also BS. SO2converts to sulfuric acid aerosols that block incoming solar radiation and contribute to ozone depletion. Last I heard ozone depletion was not merely local in impact
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Old 01-25-2007, 02:33 PM   #9
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The total amount of overall greenhouse gases emitted by St. Helens maybe BS but denying that volcanic eruptions don't have a global impact is also BS.
Never said they did. But everything I've read indicates their contribution to greenhouse gases is small compared to human activity.

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