Plug Etiquette

[Tagger]

Originally Posted by Canalman

This stuff always goes way too far... we need a Constitution for crissakes

I'll start with the declaration of Plugdependence..

When in the course of swapping events it bcomes necessary for one builder to dissolve the obligatory bands which have bound plugs gifted, traded and sold that once connected them with his plug bag and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Plugging and of Swappings God entitled them, a decent respect to the opinions of the peanut gallery requires that a trader or seller must declare the causes which impel them to separation.

We hold these plugs to be self evident, that all plugs are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are to be traded or sold for the pursuit of happiness, LARGE or monetary gain- that to secure these rights, flame wars are instigated among men, derriving that their just powers, that don't ammount to a hill of beans, from the consent of the builder. Such consent shall not exist in this our free website where Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness shall prevail form this day forth and that whenever a Falme War shall be deemed destructive of these ends, it is the right of the members (in good standing) to alter or to abolish said flame war and to institute a new Flame War, laying it's foundation on such priciples and organizing its plug bags in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their sealer and epoxy. Prudence, indeed, will change, will dictate that future flame wars over plug sales and trades and should not be changed for light and transient flame wars; and accordingly said plugs should be treated as property owned by the bearer and legal to do with what he pleases.....

Should I go on?

If you have it your possession it's yours to do with what you please, all the plugs I give away I hope that they will be fished, if they're going to hang up, I'd prefer that they are sold maybe the new guy will actually fish them.. However I am guilty of hanging a few plugs... but I even fished my Tadpole... I bet I'm the only one who did that

-Dave

Well said Dave but I wouldn't want to repeat it.. I think from a legal stand point you are 100% right.. Possession is 90%of the law .. I pose the question to you Dave ... After you spy your "gift plug" on ebay.. Do you give them another ? 1st plug is gone ,,legally sold ,, and tough cookies if you don't like it .. ..what about Morallity..Etiquette.. Manners.. I'm sure its probably legal to have relations with ones sister..

[Charleston]

You can have my sister, just keep your d**kskinners off my plugs

I think everyone shares the feeling that you don't sell gifts!! it's that simple.

[Backbeach Jake]

d**kskinners!! Bill, you're a riot!!

[Canalman]

Ed... it's kind of a weird place to be there but I sense some personal experience there. I have given plugs to guys and seen them sold before... didn't hurt my feelings, on another note though, if it were a special plug that I had made with that person in mind I might be hurt. One good thing for you Ed... all the plugs you've given to me or traded to me wouldn't bring 5 cents on the plug market... I've destoyed them all feeding them to bass

[Tagger]

Nope ... no personal experience,, or hurt feelings ,, not on a soap box .,, no drum to beat ,,,or flag to wave .. Just throwing topic up for discussion ... Your declaration funny as a bastagde Dave and legally binding.. ..Just wondering how people felt to see,what they felt was there pride and joy on ebay.. Or add insult to injury ,,,sell cheap Plugs = civilized man or Plugs = law of the jungle . If feelings really get hurt duelling is still legal .. Sundays,, Boston Common after 12:00 am and the Governor must be present ..

[Jigman]

Once it leaves your hand, its theirs to do with as they please. That said, selling a gift plug, unless really in need, is sort of low. The only time I would get a little pissed is if I gave a plug to some who for testing purposes, and they sold it without giving feedback or noting when they sold that it is a proto and may not be sealed. Would hate to think that I gave someone a plug for testing that, while the action is good, it was not sealed, I used cheaper primer/paint/clear to get it to them quickly, and figured I would send them a good one once I got feedback. If that plug goes out to someone else who thinks it your normal stuff, you the builder stand to lose in the long run. That is, you got no feedback and someone may have a substandard plug with your name associated with it. And no, that person would not get another plug from me

Personally, I prefer to fish the ones I get (even tadpoles). In rare instances, I have given traded plugs to someone else. Only happens in cases where I know they will use them and I have not used them in a while.

Jigman

[chumbucket]

I agree with Jigman. Feedback is more valuable then the plug. I think all plugbuilders want to improve their designs' fish-catch-a-bility/ swimming action.
My prototypes are marked: Proto (Early ones had a number system I abandoned)
Special designs made for someone or some specific situation: Special
Fish 'em all I say, let God sort them out.
Chumbucket

Originally Posted by Jigman

Once it leaves your hand, its theirs to do with as they please. That said, selling a gift plug, unless really in need, is sort of low. The only time I would get a little pissed is if I gave a plug to some who for testing purposes, and they sold it without giving feedback or noting when they sold that it is a proto and may not be sealed. Would hate to think that I gave someone a plug for testing that, while the action is good, it was not sealed, I used cheaper primer/paint/clear to get it to them quickly, and figured I would send them a good one once I got feedback. If that plug goes out to someone else who thinks it your normal stuff, you the builder stand to lose in the long run. That is, you got no feedback and someone may have a substandard plug with your name associated with it. And no, that person would not get another plug from me

Personally, I prefer to fish the ones I get (even tadpoles). In rare instances, I have given traded plugs to someone else. Only happens in cases where I know they will use them and I have not used them in a while.

Jigman

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by chumbucket

Special designs made for someone or some specific situation: Special
Fish 'em all I say, let God sort them out.
Chumbucket

I have one of your "specials" and am currently building a hermedically sealed veiwing chamber for it

I also have one of you proto numbered plugs that we traded way back when, it's a big needle.

As far as etiquette goes, i think it's common sense, and that seems to vary with the individual.

[technologist]

I only acquire plugs that I really believe will catch fish. Then I throw away the packaging, to insure I won't start collecting them! The newest always go in my bag!