How would all the "new" boat guys be doing from the surf???

[GonnaCatchABig1]

[QUOTE=Back Beach;500428]

Originally Posted by DZ

The "new" boat guys are really the fishermen who are adapting and utilizing the best method for catching large fish right now. That means they are serious about results, regardless of the method. If you plan to stick with strictly surf fishing, you will experience droughts, even when the fishing is good, its just the way it works.

that's not even fair to say. that's an at least $4000+ ""adjustment"" just to gt the ""adjustment"" in the water. having a boat is not an adjustment, it's a luxury. one that many guys cant afford. to say surf guys aren't serious about results because of that is a pretty bold statement. i MIGHT get out on a boat next weekend and couldn't be more excited. especially after spending almost 200 hours fishing and hiking to spots in the past two weeks. with no results. i have tried just about everything in my arsenal to avail. despite knowing what the local fish are feeding on. any way.. buying a new rod and reel and some new baits or whatever is an adjustment. getting a boat is in a completely different ball park.

i'll be honest, as a guy who has always been land locked, i think boats are cheating. and would i cheat if i could? hell yes! and plan on hopefully doing just that this year.

[NIB]

Boat fishing ain't as easy as some make it out to be.There is a vast ocean out there.Takes a lifetime to learn..If u think the surf can be tough to break down there's way more access to water in a boat..Some guys don't take the time to break down area's a little at a time.They are to impatient they just zoom all over the place.Basically ending up where everyone else is.Just look for the floatilla on any weekend..For some reason most guys don't go at night..We have a great fishery here in NJ that only has 2 or 3 guys on it every night.
Thats Why Bill N basically a new boater, is so stoked to fish with a guy Like Capt Jim White.
Here is a guys with a ton of experience.He has paid his dues just like any good surf guy..
Between him an Clammer it is no wonder Bill has taken to the floating world of fishing so easily.Add to that his ability to catch fish an the results are palin to see.
I have friends, new boat guys invite me out all the time. I almost always decline.After they hit the one or to tricks they have they are clueless.An ask me what I think..An then we end up in the floatilla..
I have a boat,While I barely use it. I have surf/fishing skills that help me to make the adjustment.I have had some success.Sometimes My head hurts from all the possiblities..I certainly don't consider it cheating.It's a big ocean that takes time to learn.While it is easier to land a big fish in a boat.U still have to hook em..

[DZ]

GonnaCatch,
Please be careful how you use the quotes. Your last post and the quote attributed to me was incorrect.
Thanks,
DZ

[GonnaCatchABig1]

Originally Posted by DZ

GonnaCatch,
Please be careful how you use the quotes. Your last post and the quote attributed to me was incorrect.
Thanks,
DZ

sorry bout that erased the wrong quote..

[Back Beach]

Originally Posted by GonnaCatchABig1

that's not even fair to say. that's an at least $4000+ ""adjustment"" just to gt the ""adjustment"" in the water. having a boat is not an adjustment, it's a luxury. one that many guys cant afford. to say surf guys aren't serious about results because of that is a pretty bold statement. i MIGHT get out on a boat next weekend and couldn't be more excited. especially after spending almost 200 hours fishing and hiking to spots in the past two weeks. with no results. i have tried just about everything in my arsenal to avail. despite knowing what the local fish are feeding on. any way.. buying a new rod and reel and some new baits or whatever is an adjustment. getting a boat is in a completely different ball park.

i'll be honest, as a guy who has always been land locked, i think boats are cheating. and would i cheat if i could? hell yes! and plan on hopefully doing just that this year.

Wait a second here now, you misquoted me and then pinned it on DZ.
What I did say is certain guys are serious about results, regardless of the method used. This means they would do whatever is necessary to put them in the best position to meet their goals.
The experienced, accomplished surfcaster realizes that even though there may be many fish about, it doesn't equate to them catching. The reasons could be countless. When you choose to commit yourself fully to shore fishing, your inherent understanding should be that you will come up empty handed many nights, even when your boat fishing brethren are bailing fish just out of casting range.

[GonnaCatchABig1]

Originally Posted by Back Beach

Wait a second here now, you misquoted me and then pinned it on DZ.
What I did say is certain guys are serious about results, regardless of the method used. This means they would do whatever is necessary to put them in the best position to meet their goals.
The experienced, accomplished surfcaster realizes that even though there may be many fish about, it doesn't equate to them catching. The reasons could be countless. When you choose to commit yourself fully to shore fishing, your inherent understanding should be that you will come up empty handed many nights, even when your boat fishing brethren are bailing fish just out of casting range.

i realize that. but that's not fair to say they are more serious about results. if i could dish out the cash for it i would. i just CAN'T. i am hoping to get out on a boat at least once this year (my first time fishing from one)i am pretty damned serious about results. back when money for fishing was plentiful (from like 6yrs to 16yrs old) i had probably spent over $2000 on tackle. that's quite a bit for a kid trying to catch that monster bass. as you know when you get a bit older money isn't so freely spent. or else i would be on MY boat right now. and let's face it like with shore fishermen, there are guys out on boats fishing and catching huge fish who couldn't care less. they just have a boat and some rods. and if they get bored enough go fishing instead of just cruising around. to say one group is more serious than the other isn't fair.
what is true, is guys with boats have a distinct advantage over shore guys. take away fish finders and just have so they have to base where the fish are with their own brains. they still have an advantage in..if the spot isn't producing they can move to the next one much faster much easier. (in 99% of the cases). for instance yesterday my main spots were elbow to elbow. i am all set with that. so then it was time to figure out where the fish were, and when they weren't there move. i spent almost as much time driving as i did fishing. had i had a boat. it would have taken a total of 15mins to move to all of the spots. but instead took almost an hour of driving and an hour of walking and setting up.

[Joe]

Granted, getting a boat and becoming an inshore bass fisherman is expensive, but it ain't the impossible dream.

It is what is. The guy who, at the end of his life, drops dead in front of the biggest pile of big fish is the best trophy bass angler. The glory goes to the man in the arena.