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07-23-2007, 01:14 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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You guys do understand that the portion of Massachusetts that is "over the bridge" was once connected to the rest of the state before they dug the canal??? The only reason things cost more down there is because the businesses that sell them mark everything up so they can turn the bucks on the tourists! It has nothing to do with it having to be brought "over the bridge"! Its not like it has to be loaded onto a ferry and transferred to an island!
The crimes mentioned here are not just exclusive to "over the bridge"......here on the south shore you pick up the newspaper any day and you can read about the break-ins taking place in all the towns! Rockland, Abington, Whitman, Hingham, Cohassett, Scituate, Weymouth.......its drugs people.......plain and simple! It is running rampant!!! Heroin, "X", Oxy, Cocaine, Meth......call it what you want, drug use is way, way up past what it was 5 or even 10 years ago!!! Its insane!!! It is not gonna get any better either! I wish I could find a stat about how the application for handgun purchase and use has gone up in the past 5 years......I bet it has gone through the roof because people are going to have to use them more to protect their homes and families from these scumbag/parasites that are everywhere!!! See all these convenience store/jewelry store/gas station thefts caught on video recently where the clerks are pulling a gun and shooting at the scumbags?!?!?!? This is everywhere folks......don't act like one community is any different than another!!! I may wind up with a gun one day......that is scary!! 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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07-23-2007, 04:06 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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Don't do anything drastic yet Karl.....there are sucky neighbors everywhere! 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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07-23-2007, 05:28 PM
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got SeaCraft?
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Cape Cod
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Karl F has hit the nail right on the head  I keep writing Ted kennedy and asking if the Air Force can please start cleaning up the Rt 28 area from west Harwich right through Hyannis with some 500 lb bombs but they keep telling me they don't have the money. What a #*$%^ hole Dennis port and South Yarmouth have turned in to. The court report should be re named the comedy report. Because all I do is laugh when I read it. 
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07-26-2007, 05:31 AM
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Southsider
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bass River, Mass.
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Originally Posted by Jon G
Karl F has hit the nail right on the head  I keep writing Ted kennedy and asking if the Air Force can please start cleaning up the Rt 28 area from west Harwich right through Hyannis with some 500 lb bombs but they keep telling me they don't have the money. What a #*$%^ hole Dennis port and South Yarmouth have turned in to. The court report should be re named the comedy report. Because all I do is laugh when I read it. 
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Jon,I have hope for South Yarmouth on Rte 28, the new Shaw's has helped that area a lot, if only Job Lot were forced to improve that building as well...
But Big Fish is 100% right, it's all about drugs, period, end of story. I work as a patrolman in Yarmouth. All I do all day is pick up the pieces of what is left over when drugs take ahold of someone's life. Domestic? He's on Oxycontins, Your car got broken into? That herion addict knows that people on Cape are still foolish enough to leave their cars unlocked with money in them overnight!!! Your home got B&E'd while you were away? More drugs. Car crash on Buck Island road? Oh, wait, that person is only drunk, yeah, I know, it's 11am, but c'mon, a man's gotta relax right? People living in motels victimizing everyone? Drugs. Your tools got stolen from your jobsite? Drugs. Copper wire stolen? Drugs. 7-11 held up? Drugs, drugs, drugs.
The motels along Route 28 are another rant in and of themselves, yet they are almost as big a reason for the decline of Cape Cod as the drugs. They have mortgages, they need to pay the bills, so they rent to anyone! I spend so much time at motels it would make your head spin, and not to help tourists, but to arrest the criminals that call them home! And who is going to visit the Cape, rent a room that smells like someone has fried a steak in butter all winter while smoing three packs a day, and then return next summer? No wonder families go elsewhere....
I was born and raised here on the Cape. What is happening is very sad. It is turning into a cespool if you ask me. Drive into Hyannis if you dare, it's called "Brockton by the Sea" to those in the know, or sometimes, "Lil' Brockton".
This topic always brings me down, time to go tuna fishing!
Alright, it's safe to come out, my rant is over, for now....
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07-26-2007, 11:54 AM
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Wipe My Bottom
Join Date: Sep 2006
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guys, has this spread to the islands yet?
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07-26-2007, 05:11 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
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Originally Posted by Bassturbed
guys, has this spread to the islands yet?
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Oh Yeah Ben, the DEA is always busting someone actually bringing it in from the islands to the Cape. MV has a problem more than ACK does.
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Why even try.........
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07-26-2007, 06:02 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
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I'd give my eye teeth and left marble to be able to live full time on the Cape again. But I left for the buck and the buck has trapped me. It ain't all about money, it's about quality. I used to be able to cast a few after work, or dig some clams, try that in Clinton. My wife couldn't stand the solitude of the Cape in Winter. I thought it was the best time. No Summer Squid, Deer hunting , quohogging, cod fishing. But then again that was 30 years ago and I was 100 years younger...
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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07-26-2007, 07:56 PM
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Thutty years ago we only had the comedy criminals out on the end. The murders were rare but noteworthy, witness Tony Chop-chop and the LAdy of the Dunes.
The guy who robbed the P-Town PO and locked himself in until morning. "What are you doing here?" , "Looking for my umployment check, it's late" He'd opened everything there.
And robbed the bank "Gimme all yer money or I'll blow your head %$%$%$%$ Of course no gun. " Ok, but you realize that you'll go to jail for this so you probably should open an account for your kids" "ok" and shoves the money back to the teller.
The Boatload of pot moored at McMillin Wharf that was mysteriously emply the next morning, Nobody saw nothing. But tons of pot was gone. They vacuumed 20 pounds of pot DUST outa that boat.
The pot smuggler that ran aground in Blackfish Creek and threw his cargo overboard. The next morning he was high and dry at low tide surrounded by his cargo.
This was the 70's and it was a riot. Now it's not so friggin funny, people are getting hurt.
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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07-26-2007, 08:55 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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Back when I was a kid, my family was on a day trip to Nantucket and someone in my family had lost something. I remember walking into the police station with my dad. No one turned in the lost item, but the desk officer and my dad started chatting, and one of the things I remember the cop saying was that they didn't even know where the cell keys were. It had been that long since they had to put someone in there
Speaking of MV and drug smugglers/mules, there's a spot on the south shore Up Island called Rum Runners' Rocks. I guess smuggling contraband onto the island isn't exactly a recent phenomenon 
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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07-27-2007, 10:41 PM
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got SeaCraft?
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Cape Cod
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hooper
Jon,I have hope for South Yarmouth on Rte 28, the new Shaw's has helped that area a lot, if only Job Lot were forced to improve that building as well...
But Big Fish is 100% right, it's all about drugs, period, end of story. I work as a patrolman in Yarmouth. All I do all day is pick up the pieces of what is left over when drugs take ahold of someone's life. Domestic? He's on Oxycontins, Your car got broken into? That herion addict knows that people on Cape are still foolish enough to leave their cars unlocked with money in them overnight!!! Your home got B&E'd while you were away? More drugs. Car crash on Buck Island road? Oh, wait, that person is only drunk, yeah, I know, it's 11am, but c'mon, a man's gotta relax right? People living in motels victimizing everyone? Drugs. Your tools got stolen from your jobsite? Drugs. Copper wire stolen? Drugs. 7-11 held up? Drugs, drugs, drugs.
The motels along Route 28 are another rant in and of themselves, yet they are almost as big a reason for the decline of Cape Cod as the drugs. They have mortgages, they need to pay the bills, so they rent to anyone! I spend so much time at motels it would make your head spin, and not to help tourists, but to arrest the criminals that call them home! And who is going to visit the Cape, rent a room that smells like someone has fried a steak in butter all winter while smoing three packs a day, and then return next summer? No wonder families go elsewhere....
I was born and raised here on the Cape. What is happening is very sad. It is turning into a cespool if you ask me. Drive into Hyannis if you dare, it's called "Brockton by the Sea" to those in the know, or sometimes, "Lil' Brockton".
This topic always brings me down, time to go tuna fishing!
Alright, it's safe to come out, my rant is over, for now....
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Hotels in South Yarmouth?!?!?!?! you mean drug stores don't you? I spent some time over there trying to find a repo car and the stuff I saw would changed my view on that area for ever, I have lived my whole life here and it is no longer the place I remember. I would never bring a family to vacation to that area ever again. Time to move to Maine, Hooper my hat is off to you for having to work in that area  its funny that Yarmouth Port and N Dennis are the exact oppisites as there soutside counter parts huh? Soon there will be two types of people left on Cape in the next few years, super rich and super poor the middle guys are getting squezzed out almost time to call the real estate agent  and cash in.
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07-24-2007, 05:38 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
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Originally Posted by Karl F
But.. what the wholesalers don't have to hear, (and they know it) is the mentality we get dealt at point of sale:
Most folks that gripe, think it is the local business doing the gouging.. (OK, I'll give you this.. prolly some do, but not as many as you think).. the gouging starts at some fat cats office.. on the "other"  side of the bridge.. and the $$ finds it's way back there too.
What most people do not realize, is that those of us who have chosen to stay here, could have done much better dollars and cents wise, and pay a heavy price to live here... and seeing how the cape has changed, many of us feel it is no longer worth it.. an exodus of natives and washashores alike, is growing.... I would be among their numbers, but I cannot convince my wife.. just yet... the new neighbor could change that soon though.
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If I could, it would be Maine.
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Why even try.........
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07-24-2007, 06:02 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Me too Flap! They got the same problems up there though.....the grass is not much greener, just a different lawn!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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07-24-2007, 07:42 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
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Originally Posted by BigFish
Me too Flap! They got the same problems up there though.....the grass is not much greener, just a different lawn!
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They got bass in mid summer, no seals then (guess they all summer on Cape Cod) and cheap Lohbstas'.
I was sitting in Kennebunkport last September enjoying a snack from the Clam Bar and watching 40 or so Stripers feeding on mussels on pilings under the over hang we were sitting on. Some were better than 3 feet long. Later on in Cape Ned#^^^^& there were 20 guys at mid day on on every cast and bass popping all over. Water was cool and clean, no mung up there in summer they say. Smells nicer too. The old days on Cape you would get out of your vehicle and the first whiff of air you breathed in had the scent of the scrub pines which have a more pleasant scent than regular pines. Don't smell that anymore.
Dreaming I guess. I still think the Cape is better than say living i9n Worcester or some boring town over the bridge. I can be fishing for bass in ten minutes from my driveway. Actually living on the upper Cape has proved to be an advantage from living on the outer Cape. Canal is 11 miles from home, the Elizabeth Islands are a ten minute ride to the boat ramp and 15 mitues later, voila, start casting. The bay side is 15 minutes and Race Point 55 minutes. I can be in Rhode Island in an hour (God forbid, just kidding) and in Ct in and hour and a half to join my bud for the boat ride to Fishers Island.
The only part that sucks is crossing the bridge twice each day to make a decent living.
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Why even try.........
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