Striper Cup standings

[Rockport24]

weather we win or not, I think you guys have proven that S-B has some of the best surfcasters out there to win over the boat guys would be freakin' awesome though. I guess I need to catch some fish...

[Mr. Sandman]

How many members do s-b have on the team? Is there a limit to the number of members a team can have? In all fairness the score should be normalized by the size of the team.

[DZ]

Wow - some impressive catches. That Team Striper roster looks like the Who's Who of pinhookers. Also recognize a few names that were "free agents" after last year and signed on to new teams looking for a shot at glory. Still not crazy about this thing but good luck to Striped-bass.com.

DZ

[luds]

Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman

How many members do s-b have on the team? Is there a limit to the number of members a team can have? In all fairness the score should be normalized by the size of the team.

I would guess there are somewhere between 30 and 40 sparticipants from this site that indicated they were part of the team. I would also think some of the larger groups like rissa and msba would be competive size wise. There were some other groups that looked like they could be big too who knows. I would hope OTW would put a cap on it for next year if we somehow had a much larger team than everyone else.

[Rockport24]

the other thing is, we're not the only web site around, I'm sure nothing is stopping other sites from fielding a team if they wanted to, so I'd say it's fair

[NIB]

Originally Posted by luds48

I would guess there are somewhere between 30 and 40 sparticipants from this site that indicated they were part of the team. I would also think some of the larger groups like rissa and msba would be competive size wise. There were some other groups that looked like they could be big too who knows. I would hope OTW would put a cap on it for next year if we somehow had a much larger team than everyone else.

We had a pretty big team also..Yet some of the guys who I fish with did not enter.
That does not matter if u ask me.
Nice fish Luds..U did the right thing an it paid off for ya..
I'm happy to see it..

[Back Beach]

I think the only thing they may do is change the conversion rate on surf fish to 1.2. As far as limiting the size of a team, I don't feel that will happen as it discourages participation and entry fees.
With regard to who has the advantage, its only the second year of the tourney and while s-b is primarily surf fishermen and a number of guys have had a good year, that doesn’t mean next year will be the same. We could suck wind next year because that’s how surf fishing is.
I think the tourney is pretty fairly set up overall, and OTW will make changes as needed to keep things equitable for both sides. (boat and surf)
Disclaimer: I am not an OTW employee, just another squid with a point of view.

[zacs]

Originally Posted by Back Beach

I think the only thing they may do is change the conversion rate on surf fish to 1.2. As far as limiting the size of a team, I don't feel that will happen as it discourages participation and entry fees.
With regard to who has the advantage, its only the second year of the tourney and while s-b is primarily surf fishermen and a number of guys have had a good year, that doesn’t mean next year will be the same. We could suck wind next year because that’s how surf fishing is.
I think the tourney is pretty fairly set up overall, and OTW will make changes as needed to keep things equitable for both sides. (boat and surf)
Disclaimer: I am not an OTW employee, just another squid with a point of view.

i agree with all of the above

[ThrowingTimber]

Rhode Island Mobile Sportsfishermen has a team in the tourney and their membership is capped at 600 members. Whats to stop all the membership from going out and giving it hell

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman

How many members do s-b have on the team? Is there a limit to the number of members a team can have? In all fairness the score should be normalized by the size of the team.

I would say we have about 30 registered for the Tourney. So some more and some less than other teams.

Team S-B's advantages could be:

• We have a good collection of anglers competing
• We are benefiting from the "shore bass" ratio
• We are benefiting from having anglers all over though the fish have come from 3 predominant regions this year: RI shore, Ditch, Mass North Shore (we also don't place in any location specific categories because of this)

Advantages Team S-B is not having:

• No boat "Ringers"
• No Commercial Boat Pros
• No Large registrations

Other groups well represented by Shore guys:

Team Jersey Shore 497.36
all 10 from Shore

Martha's Vineyard Surfcasters 466.88
9 of 10 fish from shore

RISAA 357.58
4 of 10 from shore

Jersey Shore Surfcasters 348.47
9 of 10 fish from shore

"Fair" will certainly be a moving target in this competition. Last year the boat guys, especially heavy commercial boat guys, dominated this tourney. So last year the fairness was questioned by the disadvantage to the shore guys and the non commercial guys. Changes were made for the points ratio (I wouldn't be surprised if some boat guys are complaining hard about that this year). This year, Jersey fielded two good teams with mostly surfcasters and those results speak too. The time range of the Tourney seems to favor the boat guys too.

If the scoring was normalized by the amount of members, where else should it be normalized? Boat -v- Shore was done (and could be further tweaked), Rec -v- Comm?

I think every year there will be factors that contribute to how well a team does or not and those factors will change yearly too. This year the Jersey guys had a ton of pogies. Did that stop fish that should have gone from the Chesapeake to the Cape? what other facotrs could change the balance next year? No pogies in RI but all in Buzzards Bay or off the Islands? All in Boston Harbor?