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12-18-2007, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
The funny thing Spence, if I remember correctly, you ARE a republican, no?
as far as whitewashing an entire party, maybe thats not fair, I should have said Democrat politicians. I hate 95% of everything they stand for on every issue. I hate 65% of what Repubs stand for, so I usually lean that way.
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I was a registered Republican for the majority of my voting life, although I'm currently not affiliated with any party.
And I'd wager you don't disagree with Dem politicians 95% of the time. Just like the GOP there's a spectrum that's represented by elected leaders. The more liberal Democrats get most of the press as they're in opposition to the more right-wing Republicans...hey, it makes for better news don't it?
Did you know that 47 Democratic House members are part of the Blue Dog Coalition, officially stating their beliefs in fiscal conservatisim?
A lot more goes on in Washington besides what's on Rush or reported by Moveon.org.
-spence
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12-18-2007, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I was a registered Republican for the majority of my voting life, although I'm currently not affiliated with any party.
And I'd wager you don't disagree with Dem politicians 95% of the time. Just like the GOP there's a spectrum that's represented by elected leaders. The more liberal Democrats get most of the press as they're in opposition to the more right-wing Republicans...hey, it makes for better news don't it?
Did you know that 47 Democratic House members are part of the Blue Dog Coalition, officially stating their beliefs in fiscal conservatisim?
A lot more goes on in Washington besides what's on Rush or reported by Moveon.org.
-spence
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Now that I agree with.
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The beatings will continue until morale improves
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12-18-2007, 12:58 PM
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I am staying out of this one. It is CHRISTMAS after all.  
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The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. ~John Buchan
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12-18-2007, 01:14 PM
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sick of bluefish
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Originally Posted by Bronko
I am staying out of this one. It is CHRISTMAS after all.  
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yup, and for 8 murderers in jersey, what a wonderful gift they got this year!
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12-18-2007, 03:55 PM
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Gee, if a bear, coyote or any other land "predator" attacks a human, it is usually "put down" because that animal has made a connection between humans and food/prey.
Now these are just animals that "don't know any better".
I would think that when considering a rapist/killer, you're talking about an "animal" that should know better, and should know the difference of right from wrong. If experience has taught us anything,
it would be that once a human has killed another human (except for self defense) they have little reservations about killing another.
This is the same basis for putting animals down (see above).
I know that there are innocent people railroaded by our glorious legal system that is driven more by fame and fortune than by the search for truth and justice, but there are also those convicted by their own confessions and stupidity, and some of these persons deserve to have the sentences they were given be carried out.
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12-18-2007, 04:10 PM
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Libs are anti death penalty for murderers, yet they have no problem aborting innocent babies. Makes me scratch my head..... 
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12-18-2007, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Skip N
Libs are anti death penalty for murderers, yet they have no problem aborting innocent babies. Makes me scratch my head..... 
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...And the Conservatives are pro death penalty, and pro life. Hmmm. I think we're both scratching our heads on that one.
I thought is more about letting a women decide what she wants to do with her own within the realms of "privacy". It has nothing to with babies, more about the government overriding a women's decision to exercise self determination.
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12-18-2007, 04:58 PM
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sick of bluefish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip N
Libs are anti death penalty for murderers, yet they have no problem aborting innocent babies. Makes me scratch my head..... 
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I can't wait for Spence's reply on that.... 
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12-18-2007, 05:07 PM
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No Lib for sure, but imho the better punishment is lifetime in prison.
Alone in a 6x8 cell with just enough food and water to keep them alive.
Maybe an hour outside each day but that's it.
Let them think about what they've done to the victim and they're family every day for the rest of their lives.
Death is too quick and not a deterrent, especially not in crimes of passion.
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" Choose Life "
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12-18-2007, 08:04 PM
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Now that these sob's death sentences have been made life without parole sentences means that they now can come up for parole hearings. There is no such sentence as life without parole anywhere. Look at Chuck Manson, comes up every two years, doesn't get out, but comes up every two years. Isn't New Jersey the same state that the cop killer was on death row that all the celebs have been trying to get out of jail? Walked up to the cop laying on the ground, who had been shot, and pumped two more shots into him. Abu Mumia Jamal. Or do I have the wrong state?
That knock the governor took on the head is going to get him voted out of office. People are going to stop putting up with this bullchit.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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12-18-2007, 04:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FishermanTim
Gee, if a bear, coyote or any other land "predator" attacks a human, it is usually "put down" because that animal has made a connection between humans and food/prey.
Now these are just animals that "don't know any better".
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Quite the opposite, the animals know exactly what they're doing. Instinct is telling them to survive. They're put down not just because they're a threat but also because their lives are not valued the same as people.
A human killer may know what they are doing or they may have mental issues. Regardless we do have a system to deal with these issues in place that when enforced, seems to keep them from commiting further harm. We do this because we value humans more than animals, even if the human is behaving as an animal.
The bigger issue are the situations where bad decisions let the wrong out at the wrong time.
-spence
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